"All the specimens that Heiko was carrying where in alcohol and formalin solution".

My preferred state to be in when flying, especially by Ryanair...not the Formalin Solution, though - that might just prove a little 'Terminal' (sorry, I couldn't resist that pun).

:o) :o) :o)

John

Just another thought to ponder on. This was the first time anyone has been CAUGHT!!!! Think back to Jack wattley, Eberhard Shultz and those that followed. All these are guilty of putting DNA alterd strains on the market, (I,m not talking about new Discoverd strains.) entirely different.
If he had nothing to hide all he had to do was to apply for the apropriate documentation. Preserving in Formaln will mean DNA is easily recoverable. In my opinion he has done the hobby a great deal of damage.

I for one agree with Russel. I comden Heiko Bleher action and i applaud the action of the Brazilian government!!!!!!!!!!!!


sheag35 wrote:
inbreeding makes poor fish remember the odd wild caught to boost stock quality is always needed
Seamus

I would agree with you Seamus if it were one or two but its not Hundreds are caught and sold not for genetic reasons but speed and profit.

if we want to protect our fish from in breed there is a simple way to do this with out exploiting and endangering wild stock.

good record keeping
thus avoiding breeding from fish closely related

good records of when and were wild stock was sourced

If this can be done with dogs, cats and horses then surely we can this

while i would except this is more suited to those with fish rooms there is no reason why fish with the correct records and history should not get a fair cash price from LFS.


this would benefit wild stock, lfs and breeders alike

He and his travelling companion have now been released.

http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/pf...s/item.php?news=1790

If seems this was the culmination of a year long investigation, so some one must think they have a case, whether it is valid or not remains to be seen.

He is an experienced enough collector to know what permits etc that are needed and if there was nothing wrong with what he was doing I don't see why he would not have secured them. As it was only fish tissues he was carrying, it would not have been for direct profit, although through his publications etc it may result in indirect profit.

Daragh

Fish tissue carries DNA, thus you can modify the genetic signature and alter the true strain. Not good enough if you are trying to preserve wild stock & blood lines.
There are enough mutations of the Discus already. The Browns & Greens were the original Discus, look where we are now.

Just an up date Heiko Bleher was today released after three and hlf days in Prison.

I am sure the story has already been sold. But it will be interesting to hear what he has to say about the matter.

yep have to agree with you on the record keeping part, but lets hear what he has to say hopefully it was a mistake not a deliberate act, i'd hate any honest researchers to be tarnished by actions of rogue traders... didn't think of the dna aspect of it though and ye have a point on that...
Heiko explain yourself to one and all if your listening