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organic aqua revisited - Part I 1 Year, 4 Months ago  
i originally tested organic aqua for a while last year, and although i found it worked very well the fact that i had so many tanks and was instucted to leave lids open discouraged me from using it extensively. but i still continued to use it for injured or recuperating fish as the holistic effect is really good. recently i was contacted by a chap who had set up a new uncycled tank and stocked it with a few dozen adult malawis, needless to say the fish were really suffering and would not last much longer without instant action. i considered taking them home to one of my own tanks but did not feel they could make it alive. then i thought of aqua so i gave him sufficient for his tank and sent him home to try it as a last resort. the next morning he rang me with the good news, all fish had recovered and were looking for food. around the same time i had a goldfish speared by a heron make a miracle recovery re aqua. my nephew (who is a very impatient young man)set up a large malawi tank last week and i was able to add twenty biggish fish as soon as the correct water temperature was reached, again using aqua. again amazingly all fish look great.
i would strongly recommend this product as part of our armoury for quarantine and recuperating fish. it is also invaluable for a quick set up (no cycling) or for novices (overfeeding not so drastic) the tank can easily be allowed to revert to normal set up cycling at a later stage if desired.
it definitely is a great product for reducing and preventing fish suffering and unnecessary deaths esp. in the first few difficult weeks
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Re:organic aqua revisited 1 Year, 4 Months ago  
Have to say I agree.I've been using the organic aqua in my 90L for a year and find it great.I think the water and filters is much clearer and no algae problems. A 25% water change with no dechlorinater once a month and thats it.
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Re:organic aqua revisited 1 Year, 4 Months ago  
I agree too. I used it back in Jan when I first got my 90l tank and put the fish straight in and not a problem. I was told not to use it by some ppl. 2 wks ago I was in my lfs and they were highly recommending it so I thought what the heck Ill give it a go. Well the effects are amazing. All of the fish look great with strong colors which my mates (who know nothing about fish) commented on!!!! All are much livlier and not sluggish looking. But the big benefit is only one water change per month!!! WOO HOOO. As i live in a samll apt this task is a pain in the a**!!!
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Re:organic aqua revisited 1 Year, 4 Months ago  

I think the marketing behind organic is good, but it make me laugh because it says "no chemicals all natural ingredients.

HELLO THEN WHAT THE WHITE CHENICALS THAT LOOKE LIKE SALT!

A tropical fish farm I once worked on in 1991 for a short time use this organic in the neat form sodium chlorite its an oxidising agent that cancel out NH3 and NO2 using the chemical path rather than the bio bacteria path, strangely enough I did a google search on "sodium chlorite aquarium" and found no mention of Ekkwill even though it came up in the Ekkwill business plan how blazare.


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Re:organic aqua revisited 1 Year, 4 Months ago  
hi sean good to have you back. very interesting video on how ekk will set up their fish farm with 5 dollars.
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Re:organic aqua revisited 1 Year, 4 Months ago  
I think the marketing behind organic is good, but it make me laugh because it says "no chemicals all natural ingredients.

HELLO THEN WHAT THE WHITE CHENICALS THAT LOOKE LIKE SALT!


Very clever Sean.
woohoo woohoo... everything is made up of chemical constituants so nothing is organic!
What we use to make Organic Aqua up from are plants that have not been produced using any added chemicals to grow or process them and minerals. Looks like salt but its not.

A tropical fish farm I once worked on in 1991 for a short time use this organic in the neat form sodium chlorite its an oxidising agent that cancel out NH3 and NO2 using the chemical path rather than the bio bacteria path, strangely enough I did a google search on "sodium chlorite aquarium" and found no mention of Ekkwill even though it came up in the Ekkwill business plan how blazare.

Speaking of salt, Sodium Chloride (NaCl)is widely used to detoxify the potentially deadly effects that Nitrites have on aquarium fish. Remember putting loads of tonic salts in with your goldfish as a kid?

Would be interested in your opinion on Organic Aqua when you get around to trying it Sean.


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Re:organic aqua revisited 1 Year, 3 Months ago  
I trialled Ogranic Aqua some time ago, original thread here: www.irishfishkeepers.com/cms/component/o...ew/catid,8/id,19344/ I do not use it on a regular basis - too many tanks. But I would not be without it, it is perfect for setting up a tank in a hurry. It also has definite health benefits for sick fish, it seems to relax them and slow whatever the ailment is. I have also used it to set up a tank for my nephew as a birthday present, which meant tank was set up complete with fish all the same day. No need to go through 6 weeks cycling and explaining why he was looking into an empty tank! That was 4 months ago and he has not lost 1 fish, I have not had to do anything to the tank. I just give him pre-measured dose of OA to apply himself and that's it.

I would really love to know how it works, but I don't, but that does not mean it I will not use it.

Sean, I checked your link, 300 webpages later I could not find anything relevant, maybe you could highlight what it is we are supposed to be looking for. You have a supply of OA now, why don't you try it and then report back your finding, that would be more interesting than trying to discredits something just because you don't understand how it works.

Some things I would like to know more about OA are:

- How it would interact with Polyfilter or Easy Life Fluid Filter Medium, two other products I use regularly, though I have never tried them with OA as I suspect they may work against each other.

- How was it discovered, is fishkeeping the only use of the main ingredients?

- As the proportions of the three ingredients remain constant regardless of tank capacity, there must be a better way of deliving the product instead of three separate mediums. A liquid form would be easier to administer without the need for a scales etc.


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Re:organic aqua revisited 1 Year, 3 Months ago  
While I fully respect both your's and Derek's opinions of this product I still feel not enough proof as to its efficacy has been furnished by either the formulators or the sellers of this.

I think the general fishkeeping public deserves far more in the way of evidence that it does fulfill all the claims made for it, after all, it isn't cheap. I think I must share Sean's scepticism here, I find it difficult to believe that any product can be such a complete answer to all tank setting-up headaches...

If it really is so good then surely documented evidence could be produced to support the claims made by the sellers?

The average newcomer starting up their new tank from scratch deserves better evidence, in my humble opinion.

I look forward to being convinced that my scepticism too is unfounded.

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Re:organic aqua revisited 1 Year, 3 Months ago  
I bought some this week and was about to add it to my tank but said Id research it abit more. I must all the reviews were good,but again the long term results are not documented.Also there seems to be a cloak of secrecy around how and why it works.

I didnt add it to my tank,instead I used more conventional methods and admit Im glad I did. However I have one key issue with the product,If I start using this product now to get my fish off to a flying start,does it mean I have to continue to use it every month,and if I discontinue using it will my fish's health go down as a result (it claims it will but I wonder is this the reason the product is out there,to produce regular customers who need the maintaince kit monthly).

In its advantage,I would say that organic aqua is probably a very useful aid to have if you need to quarantine a fish and dont have the quarantine tank up and running (as is my case most of the time ).

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