thanks to everyone who has argued their way through this thread. I will probably make it a sub tropical set up and not completely cold. I will have goldfish in it and frogs but I have been researching a bit and Some nice barbs (as you might already know I have a soft spot for Dennisons)or more weather loach might be nice.

One thing is for sure I will fill it and then I will probably end up looking for space for another tank. It is addictive thats for sure.

Personally I wouldn't go keeping goldfish with the WCMM. I've had the minnows eaten by the goldfish before when kept together.

WCMM are lovely fish & are no longer the poor man's neon tetra. Well they're no longer cheaper & they're not a tetra at all.

Never kept bitterlings, can't comment on them. Can you still even get them with all the licensing hoo ha about them?

WCMM & Sticklebacks, nice together.

Richard

lampeye wrote:
just taking the **** holger
There is a use of foul language

Goldy i have some golden rice fish and some Killie's that may go well with your set up.
My only concern would be the hungry frogs.

@ lampeye; can you skip the bad language.

relax ladies. and holger i hate point out your contradictions you twice in one thread but .........

apistodiscus wrote:
Fair enough point but how would you like it explained?
Would that have this 'C6H12O6 + 2 ADP + 2 phosphate ? 2 lactic acid + 2 ATP' have done it? Ok, taking the ****...

apistodiscus wrote:
what the chemistry or that I#m taking the ****?

apistodiscus wrote:
There is a good article in PFK this month about mollies. Well worth the read. (yes, I know and you can all take the **** now, but I actually agree with PFK for once). What it comes down basically is that NH4, NO2 and NO3 are less toxic in hard, alkaline water and that mollies are very susceptible to these compounds when kept in softer water.
Holger[/quote]

<br><br>Post edited by: lampeye, at: 2007/08/08 13:57

@lampeye,
and you had to quote me on a post where the brain wasn't quite switched on after a night on Cork's finest This is getting out of hand again

i saw a guy wearing a tshirt that said : IN CORK WE DRINK BEAMISH
<br><br>Post edited by: lampeye, at: 2007/08/08 14:16

That would be correct. I used to have an apartment right across the road from the main entrance. The main rep is a buddy of mine but even he couldn't get them to put a direct line into my living room. I even offered to put a meter in

since everyone else is using the p*ss word. P*ss off and fight somewhere else.

lol...nobody is fighting goldy. bit of banter is all.