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Re:organic aqua revisited - Part I 1 Year, 4 Months ago  
Thank you for the post Rodo.

From what I can gather you may not have been leaving your lid open for long enough or possibly not washing your filter media out correctly (tap water for OA systems, tank water for traditional systems) and as such suffered the wrath of hair algae and the need for weekly cleaning.

When used correctly, OA will leave your tank SPOTLESSLY clean all the time.

Plant treatment can be used in any pH but for best results with minimum algal growth it is recommended to maintain a pH of between 6.8-7.0.

Thank you for using OA though and I feel this underlines the fact that one may revert back to a traditional system at almost any time when using OA. (The exception of course being straight after a water change where tap water was used to clean biological media!)

Wishing you the best of luck in your fish keeping future!

cheers,

Steve
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Re:organic aqua revisited 1 Year, 4 Months ago  
Sean wrote:

Yes, I am not saying not to use it, I think its a great idea when cycling a new tank,its a interesting idea that you are adding a "different" stain of bacteria to conventional bacteria: If this is true then these "different" bacteria may need a additional source of food from apart from ammonia and nitrite, this would expanding the chemicals (white stuff), I am a bit secptical as I recall what the trade is capable of getting up to e.g in minireef who when bough out by International Sea Board(Philippine marine importers in the states I used to work for in the early 90īs) They marketed a food source for de nitrating bacteria and sold it in a nice plastic bottle with a nice sticker (more professional designs than Organic Any way it ways just tap water with a kind of sugar dissolved in.

Now Organic has a suspicious has a trade addressee with P.O.Box number short of having a hot mail email address it looks doggy, but if you are will to pay the money for it I have no problem with it.

I feel it only fair to point out sean that OA comprises of three products-

1) General Treatment (G.T.)
2) BBAC
3) Health Treatment (H.T.)

G.T. and BBAC are used in conjunction with one another to control the toxic gasses in a given body of water.

H.T. is what you have described as looking a bit like salt or some sort of chemical and as the name would suggest is in fact a Health Treatment for your fish.

As pointed out by many on this forum, H.T. can be used as a stand alone product in traditional aquaria and is not something that has any effect on the water quality at all.

Similarly the G.T. and BBAC can be used as stand alone products too.
When combined though they perform this unlikely scenario whereby the toxic gasses are freed from the water in gas form and leave your fish in a relatively safe and happy environment.

Thank you for your endorsement of the product as a means of safely starting a new tank though, much appreciated!

cheers,

Steve
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Re:organic aqua revisited - Part I 1 Year, 4 Months ago  
You may be correct in your diagnosis Steve....I used to leave the lid open for about 12-16hrs per day (which I was told was enough) but never washed ALL of my filter media under the tap at the same time (I was afraid to take the chance). As I said before, other than that I couldn't fault the product so if that was my problem then I'd be tempted to give it another go, either way I still keep a stock on-hand in case of problems, holidays or the need for a quarantine tank. Thanks for clearing it up for me.

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Re:organic aqua revisited - Part I 1 Year, 4 Months ago  
Delighted to have been of help in your situation Rodo, please keep me posted on how you're getting on.

All the best,

Steve
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Re:organic aqua revisited - Part I 1 Year, 4 Months ago  
ooops i hav'nt been washing the filters in tap water, best do now. How often should this be done,
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Re:organic aqua revisited 1 Year, 4 Months ago  
Daragh_Owens wrote:

What evidence is presented with most fish medications and treatments on the market, John did you research the last dechlorinated you bought. What were the findings? Did you find exhaustive trials and technical explanations of how the product did what it claimed? I doubt it.


An interesting point you make Daragh.

A popular dechlorinator which is widely used and marketed as 'natures liquid bandage' seems to have a not so 'natural' ingredient-

aquariumpharm.com/Products/Product.aspx?ProductID=43

Click on 'Product MSDS - English'.

Quite frightening I'd say...
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Re:organic aqua revisited 1 Year, 4 Months ago  
Wow, and Stress Coat is used in all fish shops when bagging fish.

I use API's Tap Water Conditioner to treat all my tap water before adding to my aquarium. Do you recommend this Steve or know anything about it?

I met you some years ago when you ran Fish FX in DunLaoghaire and you were very friendly & helpful to me. Best of luck with the new OA venture.
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Re:organic aqua revisited 1 Year, 4 Months ago  
wow.. scary link steve.

just a side note, i dont know if you've been following but
there is another person doing a trial and a descussion happening on 'the other forum'
and also one on cichlid forum
(links removed)

might be of interest.
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Re:organic aqua revisited - Part I 1 Year, 4 Months ago  
louis wrote:
ooops i hav'nt been washing the filters in tap water, best do now. How often should this be done,

Typically one should do this every water change (every 4weeks) for maximum benefit although there have been reports from people who don't do this at all.
Mostly though they seem to suffer more algal growth than should occur.
How is the algal growth in your tank?
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Re:organic aqua revisited 1 Year, 4 Months ago  
tm2204 wrote:
Wow, and Stress Coat is used in all fish shops when bagging fish.

I use API's Tap Water Conditioner to treat all my tap water before adding to my aquarium. Do you recommend this Steve or know anything about it?

I met you some years ago when you ran Fish FX in DunLaoghaire and you were very friendly & helpful to me. Best of luck with the new OA venture.

Hi tm2204,

I don't want people to think that using Stress Coat in the small doses that are required by your typical fish keeper is dangerous as it is my understanding that only when used in large doses or transported in large volumes (hence the disapearance of the old 5L buckets of it) is there any sort of danger.

Do you use OA in your system?
If so then you do not need to use any water conditioner as the products do in fact break down chlorine etc in tap water anyway.
If you are not using OA then I would strongly recommend the use of some sort of dechlorinator/water conditioner.

Good to hear from you,

Cheers,

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