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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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01 Sep 2012 01:05 #1 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
Forget fish, forget science and chemistry........music is my first love.

I like the music that most people seem to hate. So that shows how cool and hip I am. :)

Maybe some YouTube links to selected fav songs?

Maybe even some links to anyone own material?

ian

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01 Sep 2012 10:39 - 01 Sep 2012 10:39 #2 by JohnH (John)

Forget fish, forget science and chemistry........music is my first love.

I like the music that most people seem to hate. So that shows how cool and hip I am. :)

Maybe some YouTube links to selected fav songs?

Maybe even some links to anyone own material?

ian


Oh no, I fear this will turn into an opening for Ian to link us to some of his own youtube entries... :(

Best Rock group in the world?
RUSH

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We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl - year after year.


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01 Sep 2012 12:46 #3 by igmillichip (ian millichip)

Forget fish, forget science and chemistry........music is my first love.

I like the music that most people seem to hate. So that shows how cool and hip I am. :)

Maybe some YouTube links to selected fav songs?

Maybe even some links to anyone own material?

ian


Oh no, I fear this will turn into an opening for Ian to link us to some of his own youtube entries... :(

Best Rock group in the world?
RUSH

John


:evil:
Only if I'm in sour mood will I link to my YouTube account (so that means I have to limit my posts to being between 10 and 11 at night when I'm in a good mood :))
But....be warned: I may also get bored of TV between 10 and 11 (which is most likely as well).

Rush are one of my favourite all-time bands. 2112 and Farewell to Kings would be my favourites of theirs.

I'm a Classical Music fan;
Big into Prog Rock (the music that many people hate)...
My top Prog Rock bands are: Yes, Black Sabbath, Pink Floyd, Rush, Led Zeppelin, Genesis (Peter Gabriel Genesis that is), and the superbly mega Van Der Graaf Generator.

Never Mind...by the Sex Pistols is a classic album.

I can't stand listening to Jazz, but love playing it (because it is totally self-indulgent clutter).

So, no igmillichip YouTube videos psoted yet then John. :)

ian

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01 Sep 2012 15:48 - 01 Sep 2012 15:49 #4 by anglecichlid (ciaran hogan)
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Anyone with a aquarium can keep fish,
But it takes real skill to be a fish keeper,


And it's spongeBob,
SpongeBob lives in a pineapple under the sea
BLANCHARDSTOWN
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01 Sep 2012 16:44 #5 by maggy88 (Wayne Mc Glynn)
i love the oldies, beatles, beach boys, buddy holly, kinks, roy orbison etc etc. love a bit of rock too like ac/dc, status quo (too many to mention). paolo nutini is another one i think is fantastic. then there's kasabian, the kooks, kings of leon, the killers. now onto old skool dance, trance, house, bit of rap too. pretty much all music i suppose. i'd love to play an instrument but i don't think i'd have the patience to learn one :P my ipod is pretty much attached to my hip!!

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01 Sep 2012 19:25 - 03 Sep 2012 08:48 #6 by des (des)
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Cool Post Ian

I love Music, couldn't live without it
I like to try listen to a good Range and there is a lot out there but I've no time for Pop, Rap, Hiphop, R&B or any of that...
I'm sure there's more but this would be the guts of what I'd listen too:

Led Zeppelin
Tom Waits
Autechre
Roy Orbison
Miles Davis
Prokofiev
Horslips
Steeleye Span
Nick Drake
Elvis Presley
Leonard Cohen
Nick Cave
Fairport Convention
Radiohead
Woody Guthrie
Maddy Prior
Mike Oldfield
Philip Glass
Johnny Cash
Beethoven
Aphex Twin
Squarepusher
the Flashbulb
the Doors
Eleftheria Arvanitaki
the Travelling Wilburys
P J Harvey
Nirvana
Pearl Jam
Dodheimsgard
Sally Oldfield
Golden Arm Trio
Esbjörn Svensson
Iron Maiden
Guns n' Roses
Maddy Prior and the Carnival Band
Kraftwerk
Beck
Björk
Portishead
Shostakovich
Brahms
Wagner
Rachmaninoff
Cesaria Evora
Slayer
Gorgoroth
Megadeth
Satyricon

I listen to a lot of the Music I make Myself too but I don't know if I should put up a link on here as it mightn't be everyones Cup of Tea !!!


Des
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01 Sep 2012 19:48 #7 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
I think that is called a 'good range', Des. Cool.

Maybe you should think about doing a link to your stuff.

ian

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01 Sep 2012 20:31 - 01 Sep 2012 20:38 #8 by serratus (Drew Latimer)
Well id have a broad range too mostly a rocker n raver at heart tho :) Metallica, GnR, AC/DC,Black Sabbath, Pink floyd,Faith no more,RHCPs, Nirvana,Smashing pumpkins,Snow patrol,Christy moore,The stone roses,Underworld,Arctic monkeys, Glyder, Justice,Portishead, KOL, QOTSA,Tool, The chemical brothers,Massive attack, Orbital,BellX1,ASIWYFA,Edel, LCD sound system.. Seb fontaine,John digweed, Sasha, Darren emerson, plus loads others..found a tape in school and it was Black Sabbath-Paranoid.. got me hooked on metal at aged 12 odd.. :cool: depends what mood im in where i am etc....plus ive a good few mates in bands here in blesso.... and ballyknockin is the home of rock in Ireland as far as im concerned :cool:
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01 Sep 2012 22:46 - 01 Sep 2012 22:49 #9 by des (des)
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Portishead


good call Drew, Great Band, Surprised I forgot to mention Them
I must edit the list n' add Portishead to it...

I wonder is there any other great music out there that has yet to be mentioned ???


Des
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01 Sep 2012 23:10 #10 by maggy88 (Wayne Mc Glynn)
wolfe tones and dubliners of course! forgot to mention them in my first list, boston, kiss, ocean colour scene, razorlight, thin lizzy, toto, whitesnake, the verve, oasis, muse, bob marley, white stripes and a few of my favourites that not a lot of people would know are the raconteurs, cold war kids, local natives, mishka, xavier rudd ( australian dude plays didgeridoo, guitar, bongos just real out there but relaxin at the same time, amazing!!!). if i keep going i'll run out of space soon! life wouldn't be the same without music, there is always something to listen to no matter how good or bad you're feeling.

wayne

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02 Sep 2012 09:10 #11 by serratus (Drew Latimer)
Ha Des your just a glory box :cool:
Ha mate in the last few yrs going to festivals n listening to live bands theres alot of great music out there.. just not had the chance or been discovered.. look up le galaxie from dublin.. seen them few weeks ago n they blew me away.. they filled a tent at a festival at 5.00 in the afternoon :cool: :cool: :cool:

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02 Sep 2012 10:43 #12 by john gannon (John Gannon)
Lynard skynard free bird is one of my all time favourites but generally I'd listen to anything
John

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02 Sep 2012 10:45 #13 by john gannon (John Gannon)
Actually as a side note what radio stations do yous listen to .larely for me it's been radio nova

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02 Sep 2012 12:40 #14 by igmillichip (ian millichip)

Actually as a side note what radio stations do yous listen to .larely for me it's been radio nova


I've switched to radio nova some months ago......one my musical heros is a DJ on there (Rick Wakeman....and his live comedy shows are also pretty good).

A good selection of music on there, and they may even play the full version of Free Bird (now that is a track to drive up the motorway when hard Kick-Down on the pedals).

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02 Sep 2012 21:18 #15 by Acara (Dave Walters)
Pretty much exclusively Iron Maiden lately. Got into them at age of 15 in 1988,but took a break along with Bruce. Finally saw them in Dublin in 2005,a 're-enactment' of the World Slavery Tour 1985(Live After Death album),I couldn't have asked for anything better.

A broad range of music,eg

Scots folk-rock - Wolfstone,Runrig,Coinneach,Capercaillie,etc,

Irish traddy type stuff especially The Fureys and Davey Arthur.

Kiwi rock,Aussie too(Cold Chisel are one of the best)

Classic rock,Stones,Zep,Doors,Deep Purple,Santana,Nazareth,Sabbath,Jethro Tull,Skynard,Springsteen(Born to Run rules!),Yes,Janis Joplin,Hendrix,Cream,Pink Floyd,The Who,George Thorughgood,Joe Satriani,Rush,far too many to mention.

Everything from REM to Kenny Rogers,Snow Patrol,James,Coldplay,Killers,ACDC,Metallica,Pearl Jam,Live,Collective Soul,Smashing Pumpkins,Skid Row(great concert in 93),Bob Seger,again,too many to mention them all.

Radio Nova on the radio.

PlanetRock on Sky

The Rock in NZ. What other station gives away as a prize a 'tray of piss'.

Members of bands,who have always stood out for me:

Drums, John 'Bonzo' Bonham. Keith 'the loon' Moon. Ginger Baker.

Bass, Steve Harris

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02 Sep 2012 22:10 #16 by woodstock500 (Robert Glascott)
Interesting topic Ian....... I'd have to agree with nearly everyone's choice above, and good to see such a variety liked by all! I'd also agree to liking nearly all music, so probably easier to name the stuff I don't like.... Pop Tarts and chart rubbish, everything else pretty much rocks! Radio generally drives me mad with the same six songs over and over but have being listening to Phantom a good bit of late, good dj's.
I used to play the bass in a band years ago, so I used to always listen to the bass in any song first and only nowadays does the rest of the song get a look in! So Acara, maddest bass player ever- les Claypool from Primus (southpark title music band). Best drummer- YouTube Vadrum/ super mario, that guys amazing but I dunno how to add a link on here! Best guitar, either Tom Morello from Rage against the machine/ Jimi Hendrix or Dave Gilmore/ Roger Waters from Pink Floyd (best album Meddle)! Best on the decks, the chap that dj's with Beck, astounding!

Rock On Tommy!

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02 Sep 2012 23:07 #17 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
@Woodstock......for the past 2 years we have been to see the Brit Floyd do a full (and brilliant) version of Echoes from Meddle.
If that is all they played, then I'd have been happy....but nope, they play more and really great stuff that Pink Floyd stopped playing in the 70s.

What would be my fav PF album?....I'd go for Animals, followed by either Meddle or Atom Heart.

@Acara.....oooh, George Thoroughgood being cited. Great to see some of the less well known artists being mentioned.

For superb songs, I would also have to name the Mamas and the Pappas, and Jefferson Airplane.
For musical interest...Focus.

How about some YouTube vids?..........
Nantucket Sleighride by Mountain........ab fab, and get that tune at about 1 minute 40 secs.


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03 Sep 2012 08:50 #18 by des (des)
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cool track Ian

the Travelling Wilburys
P J Harvey

there's another two I forgot to mention...



Des

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03 Sep 2012 10:23 - 03 Sep 2012 10:24 #19 by Acara (Dave Walters)
Ian,I saw George in the Olympia a few years ago,what a night!!

he dosn't seem very popular over here,but was very well known during my younger years in NZ

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03 Sep 2012 11:40 #20 by Acara (Dave Walters)
Can't believe I forgot The Levellers!!

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04 Sep 2012 00:29 - 04 Sep 2012 00:38 #21 by des (des)
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...Maybe you should think about doing a link to your stuff.

ian


Feck it, sure why not
here's a couple of tunes I made, I usually just keep it simple or else get way over complicated with it, some very experimental, probably almost to the point of being unlistenable...

here's a couple of the more Mellow Tunes...

...hope they don't get ridiculed too much...

I'll link some more experimental/ up tempo ones later...













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04 Sep 2012 01:55 #22 by sheag35 (Seamus Gillespie)
quickest way would be to say everything except country and diddel e i trad, but a rock boy growing up thin lizzy, ac/dc, iron maiden, metallica etc is my first love but depends on the mood i'm in could be classical or jon secada you never know

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04 Sep 2012 20:37 #23 by murph (Tony Murphy)

Ha Des your just a glory box :cool:
Ha mate in the last few yrs going to festivals n listening to live bands theres alot of great music out there.. just not had the chance or been discovered.. look up le galaxie from dublin.. seen them few weeks ago n they blew me away.. they filled a tent at a festival at 5.00 in the afternoon :cool: :cool: :cool:


They also filled a tent (and then some!) at 2 in the morning at the weekend.

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04 Sep 2012 20:48 #24 by serratus (Drew Latimer)
Hi Murph.. yup i was there :cool: did you see hotchip on sunday in the electric arena? lifted the roof off :crazy:

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04 Sep 2012 20:53 #25 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
@Des.......good lad for posting some of your own.
What equipment/software did you use there?

ummmmm.....maybe....just maybe I will punish people with some of my stuff (but I can only find a few tattered practice tapes and some stuff that I was preparing for something or other). :evil:

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04 Sep 2012 20:54 #26 by DJK (David Kinsella)
Too many bands to mention but I'll give the list on my ipod in alphabetic order.

Abba
AC/DC
Coldpaly
Common People
Danny Wilson
Doobie Brothers
Elvis
John Mellencamp
Kool and the Gang
Led Zeppelin
Michael Jackson
Neil Diamond
Police
Pretenders
Queen
Rory Gallagher
Sheryl Crow
Suzanne Vega
Talking Heads
Thin Lizzy
Tina Turner
Toto
Traveling Wilburys
U2
Van Halen

Dave

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04 Sep 2012 21:06 #27 by murph (Tony Murphy)

Hi Murph.. yup i was there :cool: did you see hotchip on sunday in the electric arena? lifted the roof off :crazy:


No. Was stuck in LBT babysitting James and Bassnectar.
I have done them before several times. They normally rock. Just weird programming putting them against
Killers....

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05 Sep 2012 18:58 - 05 Sep 2012 18:58 #28 by des (des)
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@Des.......good lad for posting some of your own.
What equipment/software did you use there?


cheers Ian

...just simple Software

Cool Edit Pro
a Midi Keyboard
& a very basic four track (Magix)

I have Pro tools n' some other good hardware n' software but I only use them the odd time
I like using the 4 track especially for percussion because Your not limited to using just 4/4, it's great for making off beat music
You can split the bar into 1/2, 1/4, 1/8, 1/16, 1/32, 1/64, 1/128, 1/256, 1/512 and on and on...

I never use samples or premade loops, just My own sounds and samples...


Des
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05 Sep 2012 19:55 #29 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
As you've been brave Des, I'll follow suit (and cope with the growns from JohnH :))

Here's an exert from a gig we did many moons ago. This is just me and the drummer, I had my trusty GR-300 put through a 1970 Tone Bender fuzz and then into a loop-back stomp box (it records something I play for 3 seconds and then loops it back....that was the backing rhythm guitar), then plonked into my (now dead) H&H amp from 1971 and then micked to the trusty (but now dead) Pink Floyd style mega WEM PA system.
The idea was to mind-warp the audience with Doppler effects bouncing from the back of the room (unfortunately this was recorded in mono).

Enjoy or be bored.



and here is one from 1991....showing the problem of recording from a live set: the singer forgot to start singing until verses into the song (so had to make something up), and then my guitar synth failed to track properly near the end when that was kicked into action.
(and I even shot then video of a hand glider over Killiney Hill for the video effects)


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05 Sep 2012 20:06 #30 by Q_Comets (Declan Chambers)
I find myself agreeing with Ian which makes me think I should look into Van Der Graaf as I had never heard of them

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