Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)
Hi,
John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.
I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.
With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.
I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.
If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.
I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.
I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.
Thank you
Darragh Sherwin
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- zale (Mark carroll)
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From the pic you can see the blue no top was very grey and the red very faded, puzzling bit is all the rest are fine, is it death by bullying I wonder.
Oh thats not white spot on him just grains of sand.
Any Ideas?
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First thing is your what are you water parameters. These are needed to help provide advise.
How long is the tank going and how long have you had him ? What else is in the tank.
Monty
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I'd imagine he lost a lot of colour after he died.
A lot of fishkeepers panic, do big water changes, start dosing the tank with all sorts of chemicals etc when a fish dies.
Personally, i wouldn't look too much into it.
Smoke me a Kipper, I’ll be back for breakfast.
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Of course, I also have a large Syno catfish......
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Oddly enough neon no. 10 is still alive and not a bother on him.
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- zale (Mark carroll)
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All parameters are spot on & temp, the tank is running about 2-3years
Theres the usual crap in the tank (I'm a cichlid man myself)
Guppies, swordtails, neons, redeye tetra, yoyo loaches, redtail shark & a big comm plec that hides in his cave.
I have the neons a couple of months
I'd imagine he lost a lot of colour after he died.
Funny enough he was that colour for a day or 2 then died, there seems to be another small neon turning the same grey?????
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1. Life
2. The Red tail shark. Depending on size they can bully smaller fish. Just watch out for it. I don't think it is the plec as you would not have found the body.
But you mention that another is starting to change colour. I'd doublecheck the water parms and see if anything is amiss - PH changes?. Not knowing your cleaning regime I'd suggest a clean of the gravel and a water change - nothing too drastic at this point until you can put your finger on the issue.
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I've actually found the culprit, I really don't sit and watch this tank mostly watch my cichlids.
Right on the nose Monty it's the Red Tail shark. What now?
If I leave him in how many will I lose and if I stick him in with the mbuna, how long will he last?
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He's about 2" now. All the mbuna are about 3"-4". I didn't think that.
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if all the other fish are healthy then i would'nt get overly concerned about it
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- Anthony (Anthony)
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Neons are usually very poor and the first to die anyway. If your other fish are ok then I would not worry.
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the only resaon I got them was the wife hates my cichlids, she says apart from the colour cichlids all look like big gold fish (why i outta take de back of me hand to her :twisted: ) so we got a tank of different looking fish (midget fish)
Neon tetra disease, I'm presuming from the name it just affects neons.
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neon disease does not affect every fish. For example cardinals don't get it.
There is some confusion regarding neon disease for starters.
the real neon disease is caused by sporozoa of Pleistophora hyhessobryconis (the name says it all). It cannot be treated and all diseased fish should be culled.
Columnaris (also known as cotton-wool or saddle patch disease) is often mistakingly diagnosed as neon disease since one of the symptoms of both diseases are white blotches across the body. The pathogen is Flavobacterium columnare. It can be treated with Potassium Permanganate or you can get some anti bacterial medication.
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- Anthony (Anthony)
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Culumnaris is also known as saddle back disease. I found salt baths to be most effective. Only ever seen it in Discus.
Although My Mbuna did show small symptons when I used Nets and hoses from the effected tank in the Mmuna setup.
This was done puposely as an experiment and I suffered no loses.
An anti parasite for ponds was used once as a precaution and I found it to bee effective.
Too tired to go into detail but I promise a post tonight.
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- apistodiscus (apistodiscus)
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I might have taken a few too many against the head over the years but I cichlids don't suffer from neon disease. Only tetras and cyprinids suffer from it.
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I'm not entirely sure if they can carry the pathogen but they don't suffer from it
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freshaquarium.about.com/cs/disease/p/neondisease.htm
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- Sean (Fr. Jack)
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Thanks for letting us know its not white spot :twisted:
Oh thats not white spot on him just grains of sand.
Any Ideas?
Do you think the fish is a bit emancipated (thin), too much competition for keener fish or not enough really fine small sinking food has past by in front of him over the last few weeks, as oppose to large floating flake that gobbled up in the surface area.
That would be a ecumenical matter!!!
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