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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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01 Feb 2010 20:58 #1 by houseofmil (Martin Bromell)
Hi to all.
was in a fish store over weekend and saw some nice catfish they were dark(grayish with a tint of black) in colour with spots and white tip on the tailfin ie the inside edge. not quite sure if it was on the other fins.
was told that these were peaceful and didn't grow that big about 2-3 inchs at most.
Inquired as to what these were only to be told and now have forgoten was wondering if they could id the fish for me as i have tried to google but can't seem to find them.
Called them today only to be told that they didn't know what the name is and the guy who was showing me them wont be working again foe a while.
any help greatly appricated thanks Martin.

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01 Feb 2010 21:19 #2 by JohnH (John)
Your description is a little sketchy but have a look in "Search Forum" (above right) at Synodontis...if only a small one my suggestion might be S. Petricola, there are some pictures of Derek's youngsters and adults but if they aren't the ones please try to make a slightly improved description as there are rather a lot of Catfish from Tropical waters from every continent along the Equator.

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01 Feb 2010 21:26 #3 by houseofmil (Martin Bromell)
thanks John its not not that one the it has a thicker body if i do manage to find a pic i'l post it to get and id.

Martin

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01 Feb 2010 21:35 #4 by JohnH (John)
Martin,
I suggest you look then on 'Planet Catfish' site as they have illustrations of just about every Catfish which is described there - it might be a bit of a long job, but you should be lucky eventually.

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01 Feb 2010 21:44 #5 by houseofmil (Martin Bromell)
will do.
it was only 4.50 i think so it must be a common enough type i think
thanks again John its just frustrating.

martin

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01 Feb 2010 21:51 - 01 Feb 2010 21:52 #6 by JohnH (John)
Martin,
Have a look at Ian's pictures on this thread (below) - are the fish you're trying to get the name of similarly shaped?
With the barbules underneath?

That, at least, can narrow the species-type to Corydoras.

John

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01 Feb 2010 22:05 #7 by houseofmil (Martin Bromell)
Not really John i think its thesse guys
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01 Feb 2010 22:17 #8 by JohnH (John)
Right, now we're getting there...
That is definitely a Synodontis, but not necessarily a Petricola, I'm a bit rusty on Synos in general, but that could just be a Multipunctatus (which definitely grow larger than the 3" you were advised.

But for €4.50 they would be a bit of a well-priced fish.
If it is a Multi they can be a bit prone to eating smaller fish (but anything larger than it could get in its mouth would be relatively safe) and they do become a bit territorial, especially with other similarly-shaped Catfish.
One last thing, if you do buy one, make sure the shop 'double-bags' it as it has spiny barbules which can often puncture a single bag.

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01 Feb 2010 22:23 #9 by houseofmil (Martin Bromell)
they are calling these guys Synodontis Lucipinnis and this looks as close as i can find def same markings colourings were a bit darker but asked my misses who was with me and she is sure its more like this one.
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01 Feb 2010 22:31 #10 by houseofmil (Martin Bromell)
will try to call in tomorrow to the store and see if i can take a picture of one and post it.
are rummy nose tetras safe with a catfish like thesse guys as they are smallest fish i have.

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01 Feb 2010 22:32 #11 by JohnH (John)
Hands up time here, I don't know the Lucipinnis at all, but an awful lot of Synos are now being interbred in Eastern Europe which definitely adds to the confusion.
Are they saying what the maximum size is on Planet Catfish?
It looks a lovely fish though - pity I'm so far away from civilisation (as far as Fish is concerned) I would snap up a few of those - especially at that price!

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01 Feb 2010 22:45 #12 by houseofmil (Martin Bromell)
Will try tomorrow to post a pic. they say about 3 inches a female 4 for a male which is another load of hassle but they say they are peaceful and have no bother with there own kind.

Thanks again John,
Martin.

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02 Feb 2010 01:20 #13 by platty252 (Darren Dalton)
Hi Martin. I am not very good with African cats but i think Synodontis Lucipinnis is like a smaller version of Petricola.
But i think for that price the chances are they are hybrids.

Another thing worth mentioning is these are from a hard water lake unlike your tetras that come from soft water. So they may not suit the tank you have.

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02 Feb 2010 01:24 #14 by derek (Derek Doyle)
lucapinnis are part of the petricola group and are usually called dwarf petricola. they are probably the commonest of the petricolas types and are being bred in aquaria. but as with petricola they are very, very slow growing and therefore somewhat expensive. the hobby is awash with syno hybrids flooding in from eastern europe and unfortunately it is hard to tell hybrids from pure strain while young unless you are very familiar with these fish.
the hybrids grow much faster and then the differences become obvious. the main giveaway in identifying hybrids is the price. at an inch lenght purebreds are about 6 months old and should cost about 15e retail. the fast growing hybrids reach an inch in 2 months and can therefore be sold much cheaper.
the reason for this deliberate hybridising is to speed up growth and increase spawn sizes for quicker profit returns but it is not doing the reputation of the hobby any good.
if you post a pic of the fish in question i can probably id him.

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02 Feb 2010 05:44 #15 by Frontosa (Tim kruger)
derek wrote:

... the main giveaway in identifying hybrids is the price. at an inch lenght purebreds are about 6 months old and should cost about 15e retail. the fast growing hybrids reach an inch in 2 months and can therefore be sold much cheaper.
the reason for this deliberate hybridising is to speed up growth and increase spawn sizes for quicker profit returns but it is not doing the reputation of the hobby any good.

Hi Derek,
agree with you but often the cheaper hybrids are still sold to the higher price to make even more profit.So in my opinion there are only two ways out of this problem.Buy of a shop you can trust and they can trust their wholesalers or better buy of a private breeder where you can see the parents.
Regards,Tim


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02 Feb 2010 10:44 #16 by houseofmil (Martin Bromell)
Thanks again to everybody again. I will visit store today on the way home and try to get a couple of pics and post them tonight is there any angles that would be best to get an id for this fish.
Thanks Martin

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02 Feb 2010 21:25 - 02 Feb 2010 21:30 #17 by houseofmil (Martin Bromell)
this is the fish i was on about went back and got some pics only had my phone but hope that this will be enough
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02 Feb 2010 21:51 #18 by houseofmil (Martin Bromell)
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02 Feb 2010 22:47 #19 by houseofmil (Martin Bromell)
can anybody tell me the name of this catfish please?
I had another thread but posted pics last so i said i would start a new one.
Hope somebody will be able to id this fish for me.
Sorry about bad picture but itss from my phone light not great in pet store either.
Thanks martin

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03 Feb 2010 00:14 #20 by platty252 (Darren Dalton)
No need to start a new tread. You would be better off sticking with your original tread or it will just get confusing.

Some of these cat's are very similar so clear photo's would be needed for someone to ID them properly.
Or maybe you could say where you seen them. Someone on here may have seen them in the shop and know what they are.

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03 Feb 2010 01:45 #21 by JohnH (John)
platty252 wrote:

"No need to start a new tread. You would be better off sticking with your original tread or it will just get confusing".

Some of these cat's are very similar so clear photo's would be needed for someone to ID them properly.
Or maybe you could say where you seen them. Someone on here may have seen them in the shop and know what they are.


Threads merged now.

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03 Feb 2010 01:58 #22 by platty252 (Darren Dalton)
Cheers John.

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03 Feb 2010 18:43 #23 by houseofmil (Martin Bromell)
went back today to the store and was told its a dwarf S. Petricola.
so that should put this issue to bed finaly.
thanks again Martin

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