Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)
Hi,
John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.
I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.
With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.
I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.
If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.
I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.
I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.
Thank you
Darragh Sherwin
Peru Shipment expected
- ipcompto (Ian Compton)
-
Topic Author
- Offline
- Sponsor
-
- Posts: 567
- Thank you received: 168
Cheers
IAn
Colombia to follow ......ps these are direct shipments not transhipments via wholesalers.
Peru shipment due in:
Anthicus Adonis-Adonis plec-River Ucayali - 25 pieces
Acestrorhynchus sp.-cashorro red tail-River Nanay - 25 pieces
Aquidens diadema-Bujurqui Red-River Nanay – 6 pieces
Achirus Sp-Panga Raya-River Ucayali -12 pieces
Aequidens Diadema-Bujurqui Red-River Nanay - 6 pieces
Aequidens Metae-Bujurqui Metae-River Itaya – 6 pieces
Aguarunichthys Torosus-Bolt cat-River Amazonas – 6 pieces
Ancistrus CF Dolichopterus- Xenocara Common – River Maranon - 50 pieces
Ancistrus Sp – Ancistrus Green Spotted – River Momon – 25 pieces
Aphanotorulos Sp – Plecp Playera L116 – Amazonas – 12 Pieces
Apistogramma Agassizii – River Nanay – 12 Pieces
Apistogramma Atahualpa – River Itaya – 12 pieces
Apistogramma Bitaeniata – River Nanay – 12 Pieces
Apistogramma Pantalone – River Tigre – 12 Pieces
Apistogramma Rositae – River Huallaga – 12 pieces
Apistogramma Sp – Apistogramma Purple – River Ampiyacu – 12 Pieces
Apistogramma Sp – Apistogramma Apache ‘Masken’ – 12 pieces
Apistogramma Sp – Apistogramma Algodoni – River Ampiyacu – 12 pieces
Apistogramma Sp – Apistogramma Glaser – River Ampiyacu – 12 Pieces
Apistogramma Pucallpaensis – River Itaya – 12 pieces
Apteronotus Albifrons – Knife Fish Dog – River Amazonas – 12 Pieces
Arapaima Gigas – River Nanay – 4 Pieces
Boehlkea Fredcochui – Blue Tetra – River Momon – 100 Pieces
Boulengerella Sp – Needle Fish Brown – River Nanay – 12 Pieces
Brochis Multirradiatus – Cory Jumbo – River Napo – 24 Pieces
Carnegiella Marthae – Marble Hatchet Fish – River Nany – 50 Pieces
Carnegiella Myseri – Glass Levis – River Momon – 50 pieces
Cetopsis CF Coecutiens – Canero Red – River Amazonas – 25 Pieces
Cetopsis Cf Coecutiens – Canero Blue – River Amazonas – 25 pieces
Chaetostoma Sp – Chaetostoma Brown L146 – River Ucayali – 12 Pieces
Chalceus Macrolepdidotus – Chalceus – River Nanay – 25 pieces
Cochliodon Sp – Pleco Red – River Nanay – 25 Pieces
Corydoras Arcuatus – Cory Arcuatus C 20 – River Ucayali – 50 Pieces
Corydoras Armatus – Cory Armatus C 96 – River Tapiche – 50 pieces
Corydoras Atropersonatus – Cory Melanistus – River Nanay – 50 pieces
Corydoras Elegans – Cory Elegans – River Napo – 50 pieces
Corydoras Leucomelas – Cory Puntatus Napo – River Napo – 25 pieces
Corydoras Loretensis – Cory Loreto – River Tapiche – 25 pieces
Corydoras Milagros – Cory Milagros – River Ampiyacu – 25 pieces
Corydoras Ornoptenus – River Ampiyacu – 25 pieces
Corydoras Napoensis – Cory San Juan – River Napo – 25 Pieces
Corydoras Narcissus – Cory Narcisus C 52 – River Tapiche – 25 pieces
Corydoras Peru Bondy C 91 – River Huallaga – 25 Pieces
Crenichla Proteus – Anashua Green – River Nanay – 6 Pieces
Electrophorus Electricus – Electric eel – River Amazonas – 2 pieces
Hyphessobrycon Erythrostigma – Bleeding heart tetra – River Nanay – 250 Pieces
Hypostomus Gomesi – Pleco Yellow L231 – River Amazonas – 24 Pieces
Iguanodectus Spilurus – Tetra Lemon – River Nanay – 100 Pieces
Lasiancistrus Sp – Pleco Red Tail – River Ucayali – 24 Pieces
Osteoglossum Bicirrhosum – Arawana – River Putumayo – 24 Pieces
Panaqolus Changae – Peckoltia Zebra L226 - River Momon – 12 Pieces
Panaque Sp – Panaque Papa L 090 FC – River Amazonas – 24 Pieces
Pecklotia Erenaria – Peckoltia Common L008 – River Amazonas – 24 Pieces
Petitella Georgiae – Rummynose Tetra – River Nanay – 250 Pieces
Pimelodus Celestis – Jumper cat - River Nanay- 6 Pieces
Pimelodus Ornatus – River Nanay – 24 Pieces
Pimelodus Pictus – Pimelodella Angelicus – River Napo – 24 Pieces
Potamotrygon Histrix – Common Stingray River Ucayali – 12 pieces
Potamotrygon Sp – Stingray Flower – River Amazonas – 2 pieces
Pseudodoras Sp – Turushuqui Green – River Amazonas – 10 pieces
Pterophyllum Scaleri – Spotted Angelfish – River Nanay – 24 Pieces
Rineloricaria Lancelota – River Maranon – 25 Pieces
Rineloricaria Sp – Loricaria Common – River Amazonas – 25 Pieces
Serrasalmus Rhombeus – Piranha Black – River Nanay – 2 pieces
Sophiancistrus CF Ucayalensis – Pleco Bola L146 – River Amazonas – 24 Pieces
Steatogenys Sp – Knife Fish Tiger – River Ucayali – 6 pieces
Symphysodon Aequifasciatus Axelrodi – Discus Yellow Eye – River Nanay – 12 Pieces
Thalassophyrne Sp – Monster Fish Cat – River Itaya – 12 Pieces
Trachycorystes Trachycorystes – Chambira – River Amaxonas – 4 Pieces
Please Log in to join the conversation.






think I might empty My planted community tank and stick a load of those fish in instead






very impressive list
it's about time someone got some cool fish in for a change

I can't wait for that shipment to go on sale
might set up camp outside the front door the night before they arrive...

Des
Please Log in to join the conversation.
- ricko10 (jamie)
- Offline
- Junior Member
-
- Posts: 229
- Thank you received: 35
Please Log in to join the conversation.
will Ya hold the following for Me please
I mightn't be able to take them all but I will take most of the following list
I'm gonna empty the community tank and move a few other fish on to accommodate the following:
Acestrorhynchus sp.-cashorro red tail
Aguarunichthys Torosus-Bolt cat
Arapaima Gigas
Boulengerella Sp – Needle Fish Brown
Cetopsis CF Coecutiens – Canero Red
Cetopsis Cf Coecutiens – Canero Blue
Electrophorus Electricus – Electric eel
Pimelodus Celestis – Jumper cat
Pimelodus Ornatus
Potamotrygon Histrix
Potamotrygon Sp – Stingray Flower
Pseudodoras Sp – Turushuqui Green
Steatogenys Sp – Knife Fish Tiger
Trachycorystes Trachycorystes
cheers
Des
Please Log in to join the conversation.
- serratus (Drew Latimer)
- Offline
- Elite Member
-
- Posts: 937
- Thank you received: 14
Des.. hahaa love it


Please Log in to join the conversation.
- ricko10 (jamie)
- Offline
- Junior Member
-
- Posts: 229
- Thank you received: 35
Please Log in to join the conversation.
- serratus (Drew Latimer)
- Offline
- Elite Member
-
- Posts: 937
- Thank you received: 14
Please Log in to join the conversation.
Des.. hahaa love it
as above, but i wil hold them for you and give you 1st refusal no prob
Fairplay to Ya Drew
Your a decent ould skin, so Ya are

if there are any other "Heavy Metal" fish there that I might've missed, hold them and all...
thanks again
Please Log in to join the conversation.
- stretnik (stretnik)
-
- Visitor
-
Kev.
Please Log in to join the conversation.
- serratus (Drew Latimer)
- Offline
- Elite Member
-
- Posts: 937
- Thank you received: 14

Hi Kev yep im online now (Obviously:P) but Ian is not as active as i am on this.. so your best off PMing me too

Just let me know what Aequidens sp. your after and i will hold them for you, no probB)
Yes when they arrive we will be putting up prices and availablity etc.. watch this space

Please Log in to join the conversation.
- stretnik (stretnik)
-
- Visitor
-
Kev.
Please Log in to join the conversation.
- andrewo (andrew)
-
- Offline
- Premium Member
-
- Posts: 742
- Thank you received: 51
Please Log in to join the conversation.
- Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
-
- Offline
- Platinum Member
-
- Posts: 2030
- Thank you received: 102
environment.nationalgeographic.com/envir...freshwater/arapaima/
Bringing 4 of these bad boys into the place is crazy. I cant see who is going to be able to house fish like this and to be honest it doesnt make any sense to promote these type of fish in our hobby. They are too large to house in an aquarium.
Gavin
Please Log in to join the conversation.
- brian (Brian)
- Offline
- Junior Member
-
- Posts: 103
- Thank you received: 11
do u have any rough prices for arapiama,bolt cat, very interested.i,ll take a run down when they are ready for sale.
brian
Please Log in to join the conversation.
- serratus (Drew Latimer)
- Offline
- Elite Member
-
- Posts: 937
- Thank you received: 14


Brian,no prices as yet as they havent arrived, the bolt cats are on hold for other people but they may change their minds.. so il keep you posted on that one!!
Cheers
Drew
Please Log in to join the conversation.
- Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
-
- Offline
- Platinum Member
-
- Posts: 2030
- Thank you received: 102
Not having a pop off you, but its just how I feel about it, and Im sure if people on here saw the size of this monster fish then they may also agree.
Gavin
Ps: some cracking apistos & corys on the list.
Please Log in to join the conversation.
- igmillichip (ian millichip)
-
- Offline
- Moderator
-
- Posts: 3366
- Thank you received: 536
Irish Tropical Fish Society (ITFS) Member.
Please Log in to join the conversation.
- serratus (Drew Latimer)
- Offline
- Elite Member
-
- Posts: 937
- Thank you received: 14
Please Log in to join the conversation.
- igmillichip (ian millichip)
-
- Offline
- Moderator
-
- Posts: 3366
- Thank you received: 536
ian
Irish Tropical Fish Society (ITFS) Member.
Please Log in to join the conversation.
- JohnH (John)
-
- Offline
- Administrator
-
- Posts: 6067
- Thank you received: 857
I'm in total agreement with you here - the subject is far too important to be lost in a Sponsor's Section.
Some years ago I tried to start a discussion along similar lines but it quickly faded into obscurity.
Let's get the ball rolling, I'll even add my two penn'orth.
John
Location:
N. Tipp
We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl - year after year.
ITFS member.
It's a long way to Tipperary.
Please Log in to join the conversation.
- eire1978 (eire1978)
-
- Visitor
-
Please Log in to join the conversation.
- ipcompto (Ian Compton)
-
Topic Author
- Offline
- Sponsor
-
- Posts: 567
- Thank you received: 168
Drew and i have discussed the possibility of bringing an arapaima in for nearly 10 yrs now so lay off the cheap shots. Half the fish species we actually see in Ireland should stay in the lakes and rivers they came from so when it comes to splitting hairs I could milk this one.... but I wont because I have a sane and logical side too...at times.
The arapaima we have listed is a farmed specimen with full cities. They are actually farmed for meat. Now that’s a shock isn’t it? Did u know that? Or or u guys watching to much Nat geo?
Why is there someone always trying to take a pop at us when everyone knows that we try and care for our stock? Hand on heart out there, if there was a god of fish floating about he would destroy every single member of the LFS and ITFS for flushing so many fish down the toilet over the years.... Fish keeping can be a controversial subject...but without fish keepers the world be a different place......and not a nice one at that.
Most fish species imported perish before the reach any size in the first place so why are u complaining about something a few inches long......What about all the horses that are kept in back gardens in Dublin housing estates or black panther pairs I may add that live a few miles from where a lot of you live.....
Where does this argument go? A day ago I was branded a racist because I told a funny story the Irish way...I’m not RTE news, all suits and monotone...in fact I got a ton of pms thanking me for the little entertainment it brought....
As for mentioning taking us off the sponsors list that is shameful.... truly shameful.....Santa is going to take a good hard look at u my son....people in glass houses eh?
Well thank u for allowing me to rant.... and yes discussion is the way forward I am a reasonable man....
And yes I value your business and yes I value all the expertise out there.... because the LFS and ITFS have a lot of very knowledgeable fish keepers on board ...so how about I make a suggestion. Now hear me out because if u do not jump on board then u will miss out.... Why don’t we set up a programme.....between ITFS and LFS.....ye go on I hear you whispering through clenched teeth.....why don’t we set up a programme monitored by you guys to your satisfaction to import a few specimens not for general sale but remain the property of mine for public awareness with the view to housing and rearing the fish with the eventual return of it to the wild......now that’s a project that would put u guys on the map and I mean the achievement map...and the credibility map ,the map where we actually do more then just talking map…that’s something to tackle....and I would embrace the chance to be a part of the project and we could raise funds for its care and housing.....what would u say to that.....does this sound like I don’t care??
I should think this is a first of its kind project......we are not a garden centre selling plants and fish we are a fish shop selling hopes, expectation and inspiration. You cannot turn around and dismantle what we do over a cup of tea and a bitchin session this could be a worthwhile endeavour....I’m only human...as a footnote my father would never let me keep fish he thought it ridiculous....to the point that i kept fish in a biscuit tin under my bed for years this is 32yrs later and u guys are trying to do the same thing...we are a run down shed in the middle of nowhere that started with absolutely nothing...I had two buckets of koi and a passion that no one I know has matched....look how many people we have educated and inspired over the years....I'm not everyone’s cup of tea but the idea of doing some sort of project excites me its like being a kid again and I’m willing to put in the time and expense if u guys want to help out...so fair is fair what do u really think could this work??? Now is this banter helping me not looking like the stunt puller you are calling me? If need be we will build a swimming pool to do this.....anyone got arm bands with pictures of ducks on them they're my favourite!!
Cheers
All
Please Log in to join the conversation.
- stretnik (stretnik)
-
- Visitor
-
Thanks.
Kev.
Please Log in to join the conversation.
- Valerie (Valerie)
-
- Visitor
-
Thank you - Valerie

Please Log in to join the conversation.
- DJK (David Kinsella)
-
- Offline
- Senior Member
-
- Posts: 330
- Thank you received: 21
Dave
Please Log in to join the conversation.
- ipcompto (Ian Compton)
-
Topic Author
- Offline
- Sponsor
-
- Posts: 567
- Thank you received: 168
Cheers
IAn
Please Log in to join the conversation.
- dar (darren curry)
-
- Offline
- Platinum Member
-
- Posts: 1539
- Thank you received: 17
or tuesdays i am down your way i could collect you, but it would be a public transport on the way back but i can drop you to a bus or luas if it suits
Check out the angling section, it is fantastic
Please Log in to join the conversation.
- DJK (David Kinsella)
-
- Offline
- Senior Member
-
- Posts: 330
- Thank you received: 21
dave if you are in av2 and fancy a trip up to av i am 2seconds from av2 and 15mins from av so if you want a lift up and back give me a shout
or tuesday i am down your way i could collect you, but it would be a public transporton the way back but i can drop you to a bus
Fair play Dar, you're a sound man. I'll wait for the shipment first and then take it from there. I'll send you a PM if needs be. Thanks again for that kind gesture.

Dave
Please Log in to join the conversation.
- alkiely (alan kiely)
- Offline
- Elite Member
-
- Posts: 830
- Thank you received: 7


If only i had my tank running id be sleeping outside the shop to get some.
Alan
Please Log in to join the conversation.
- dar (darren curry)
-
- Offline
- Platinum Member
-
- Posts: 1539
- Thank you received: 17
What a cracking list of Apistogramma there.....!!!
![]()
If only i had my tank running id be sleeping outside the shop to get some.
Alan
fair is fair, i have a sleeping bag if your stuck
Check out the angling section, it is fantastic
Please Log in to join the conversation.