thinking of a new filter ....

... for my 100 litre tank .. any suggestions ? I would want a pretty quiet one .. I have never tried external filters before as I have thought it would be overkill and possibly louder than an internal one .. anyway , any advice would be superb !

cheers ..

for 100L tank i'd recommend a jbl e701 external or maybe an eheim classic 2213

I'm with Davey on this Eheim all the way,

Also good to get a good size filter so that when you upgrade it will suit just be carful that is will not be to power full for the 100L

Sean

davey_c wrote:

for 100L tank i'd recommend a jbl e701 external or maybe an eheim classic 2213

ok , thanks dave .. so both of these are external and quiet ? and am I just taking my current filter media pads out of my internal filter and sticking them in to the new one ?

I have NO idea how an external filter works , zero , zip , nada ...

BlueRam wrote:

I'm with Davey on this Eheim all the way,

Also good to get a good size filter so that when you upgrade it will suit just be carful that is will not be to power full for the 100L

Sean

Thanks Sean , so is the above eheim the way to go for the 100 litre ?

bmcg38 wrote:

am I just taking my current filter media pads out of my internal filter and sticking them in to the new one ?

Rather not.

Check this one. Looks good.
www.eheim.com/en_GB/products/technology/...nal-filters/ecco-pro

yep jbl's and eheim's are silent enough for you not to hear them

i don't know what internal you have but if the sponges fit into a basket in the external by all means stick it in... might even speed up the process... otherwise you will need to run both simultaneously till the external seeds

@Op
not sure what your budget is, but eheim is a bit expensive.
general rule for external filters is bigger=better. more filtering medias in a filter means more bacteries.
If you cant afford eheim (one of the best on the market) try tetra ex700. I have ex700 and ex400 in my tank, they both do well their job.
bigger filter doesnt mean bigger water flow as ypu can always reduce it.
I find my tetras silent, but after start it takes time to get rid of air from the filter and it is littke noisy for the first 2 days.

davey_c wrote:

otherwise you will need to run both simultaneously till the external seeds

dohh !! of course

CaptainSlow wrote:

@Op
not sure what your budget is, but eheim is a bit expensive.
general rule for external filters is bigger=better. more filtering medias in a filter means more bacteries.
If you cant afford eheim (one of the best on the market) try tetra ex700. I have ex700 and ex400 in my tank, they both do well their job.
bigger filter doesnt mean bigger water flow as ypu can always reduce it.
I find my tetras silent, but after start it takes time to get rid of air from the filter and it is littke noisy for the first 2 days.

thanks captain , I am thinking the eheim though ..

so is it ok to get a 200 litre rated filter for a 100 litre tank ? like the eheim eco 200 range etc ..

yes, but its not necessary. Smaller will be strong enough.

pit wrote:

yes, but its not necessary. Smaller will be strong enough.

ok , but but bigger is better no ? and then I will have the proper rated filter if i ever upgrade the tank etc ..

bmcg38 wrote:

pit wrote:

yes, but its not necessary. Smaller will be strong enough.

ok , but but bigger is better no ? and then I will have the proper rated filter if i ever upgrade the tank etc ..

now your talking
i have 4 eheims running,2 for about 12 years and still going strong
they are worth the extra money

bmcg38 wrote:

pit wrote:

yes, but its not necessary. Smaller will be strong enough.

ok , but but bigger is better no ? and then I will have the proper rated filter if i ever upgrade the tank etc ..

If you buy an ecco 2000 never ever even remotely force the lid down. Put no pressure on the parts when you are doing maint, none whatsoever or you'll be looking at a cracked canister.

Super quite filters though

hey yall ..


another question regarding the external , say the eheim classic ...

Can i create good surface agitation with one or do i need to buy additional equipment to achieve it ?

I do not like using airstones or extra pumps if possible , and i do like the way I can use my current internal for good agitation easily and quietly ..

cheers

Bmcg ive been asking myself the same question all week, i just got a 180 litre tank and it has a build in , internal filter.... but i want to get a external too.... cause i hear the juwel internal filters cant handle bio-loads very well. I hear eheim is the way to go.... more expensive initially but well worth it in the long run.

Anyone any advice on which external to run with a juwel bio flow 3.0?

Gilly

You should try:

JBL CristalProfi E901

www.jbl.de/en/aquatics-freshwater-produc...-e901-greenline#info

or

the ye old faithful Eheim Classic 2215

Both are good brands and available with the sponsors.

Eventually you'll end up removing the internal...

Cheers

Abe

Gilly wrote:

Bmcg ive been asking myself the same question all week, i just got a 180 litre tank and it has a build in , internal filter.... but i want to get a external too.... cause i hear the juwel internal filters cant handle bio-loads very well. I hear eheim is the way to go.... more expensive initially but well worth it in the long run.

Anyone any advice on which external to run with a juwel bio flow 3.0?

all depends on stock!! i had my 120L jewel on the standard internal for about 4 yrs without any problems and it seemed well capable!!

Davey id love to tell you about stock but ive literally no idea as of yet. am open to some suggestions for the tank though? preferably compatible with a betta?

Tigger how do the jbl ones rank next to the eheim.? and are they expensive. Im looking to spend perhaps 150-200 max

Hi

Aquaworld.ie have the e901 at what looks like a good price.

Leave one for me though my fish need an Xmas present

Gilly wrote:

Davey id love to tell you about stock but ive literally no idea as of yet. am open to some suggestions for the tank though? preferably compatible with a betta?

don't get me wrong but its to my understanding that bettas don't do will in average sized tanks. its like they aren't or don't feel safe in them and are vulnerable or something. plus you are realy limiting your possibilities of tankmates!!


i have an unused jbl e1500 for sale for 100e if it suits anyone?? didn't want to sell but kinda have to

I just bought a 2224 eheim for 60 l aquarium (chose between eheim and JBL901e)i have plans to use it to 120 l and i think will be ok
It is quiet, efficient and has all the filter media
Cost me 105e about 2 weeks ago online.
They change price now but still ok

bmcg38 wrote:

hey yall ..


another question regarding the external , say the eheim classic ...

Can i create good surface agitation with one or do i need to buy additional equipment to achieve it ?

I do not like using airstones or extra pumps if possible , and i do like the way I can use my current internal for good agitation easily and quietly ..

cheers

anyone any ideas with the above regarding surface agitation and an external eheim ?

bmcg38 wrote:

bmcg38 wrote:

hey yall ..


another question regarding the external , say the eheim classic ...

Can i create good surface agitation with one or do i need to buy additional equipment to achieve it ?

I do not like using airstones or extra pumps if possible , and i do like the way I can use my current internal for good agitation easily and quietly ..

cheers

anyone any ideas with the above regarding surface agitation and an external eheim ?

i previously had a classic 2213 and it had good flow, i had the bar pointing up at the surface and it created good movement. you will get better movement if the spraybar is just below the surface instead of a bit further under the surface.

davey_c wrote:

bmcg38 wrote:

bmcg38 wrote:

i previously had a classic 2213 and it had good flow, i had the bar pointing up at the surface and it created good movement. you will get better movement if the spraybar is just below the surface instead of a bit further under the surface.

thanks Dave . Does the spraybar come with classic series ? im thinking of a 250 classic .

ahh , i think it does come with a spray bar , great .. will probably go for the 250 classic so

@Gilly:

Eheim have a wide range of models and the Eheim 2217 is should we say ...a traditional model ...doesn't have a self priming button. If you want a self priming button & other bells and whistles you would need to move up the range in Eheim. I have an Eheim 2217 for a number of years and it still runs smoothly.

JBL are not expensive. The top of the range JBL 1501 (which would be OTT for your tank) costs €170 max at some sponsors. The e901 as noted by Q_Comets would be substantially cheaper. Try Seahorse/Aquaworld.

The user feedback on both Eheim Classic & JBL is good. Stay away from the Eheim Eccopro models though (just my own opinion).

I know davey , he is in a 35 litre atm and i intend on leaving him there. But i know there is a possibility i might need a hospital tank... i cant have three tanks in my room so i would need to move him into the 180 litre on the off chance i need his tank you get me?