Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)
Hi,
John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.
I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.
With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.
I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.
If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.
I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.
I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.
Thank you
Darragh Sherwin
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- alan61979 (Alan)
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I've been keeping fish for about 20 years so I'm not really a beginner. Started with freshwater, went into Marines, back into freshwater, had a total wipeout thanks to some Denisoni Barbs. Then I went back into Marines where I've been for the last few years. You might have noticed I'm in the process of selling my Marines and going back into freshwater (for the last time)!
So I want to pick the brains of the freshwater experts here as I go along. At the moment my Marine tank has been stripped down and I'm in the process of removing the coraline algae and rinsing out the whole tank.
My first purchase is going to be substrate.
I'm going for a planted Amazon tank, a big shoal of Rummy noses and maybe cardinals or another tetra and a few other fish that I haven't researched. I'll definitely be keeping a handful of Corydoras Catfish, species as yet undecided and maybe an L number plec or 2.
Bearing that in mind what substrate should I be going for? I've used silver sand in previios Aquariums and I'd be happy to use it again, but I fancy something different this time.
I'll post my next questions when I have my substrate sorted!
Here's one of my previous Aquariums. . . . . . .

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enjoy
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Then I will put AquaSubstrate and AquaSubstrate II - do not know if available in Ireland. There can be some other substrate but I do not know their names.
You can find JBL Manado in some shops. I even bought it but after gathering opinions on other forums, I returned it to the shop. It is not a fertilized substrate, just very light, small 'balls' (in lovely terracota colour) that have to be very carefully washed and even boiled. From the opinion of users I lernt that it didn't keep plants very well and with full of energy fish or those that like to dig in surface, you will have the substrate swiming in the tank. You have to put a fertilized substrate layer under it.
You can also use an ordinary gravel and under-root fertilizers (eg JBL's balls). Quartz sand looks very nice and is neutral for water as I know.
I hope this information will help yuo but I think there will be different opinions on every substrate depanding on the experience of users.
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I never thought about inverts. I might look into that when I get ready to stock. Think I'll visit a couple of shops in Dublin tomorrow and see what type of substrates are available.
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Here's a photo of the school aquarium,
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I also use under root fertilisers (balls) and EasyLife products. You can put a layer of substrate under gravel and it will be also good.
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i used sera floradepot and jbl aquabasis fertilised substrates, topped with <5mm plain washed gravel (natural) - its cheap and cheerful but does the trick with low maintainance plants. esylife easycarbo is dosed at just under the recommeneded 1ml per 50l, and jbl's 7 balls are placed under the gravel beside the slower growing plants to give the roots a wee boost. easylife's ferro and profito fertilisers are dosed at just under minimum recommendations - there is plenty food in the substrates but i add liqiud for plants to take extra out the water column. get t5 plantpro tubes from arcadia they are blummin good
so long as your gravel is smooth and around 5mm its ok for both cory's and plant roots, if you are not planting too much into the substrate then dont bother with soils just dose liquids and put fertiliser pellets at the roots of the plants.
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but yes you can go ahead and plant the tank out, do you have any fertiliser? you should add a little of it for the start as the plants need food (you can stop when the fish are in) i dont do this as i have a very fertile substrate
cut the roots to around 1" at 45deg and plant them using tongs. planting before the fish go in so they get a chance to root down before the fish start digging/pulling at them
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I'm not an online buyer myself, I much prefer browsing in a shop and seeing exactly what I'm getting. I'd be curious to know if anyone has any online plant buying experiences though. You can PM me if you prefer!
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Do you mean liquid fertiliser or some other kind?
Both liquid and under root fertilizers. Depanding on kind of product (make) put balls or sticks in required quntity - sometimes even every 10 cms or nearby the plant roots. Then on a daily or weekly basis add liquid fertilizers. Start to feed your virtual fish (not present in the tank) - all this will help to mature your filter. After 2 weeks your plant's root system should be strong enough to survive first fish in the tank. Under gravel fertilisers in some cases should be replaced with a new ones every 2-3 months (JBL says their ball last for 12 months - well I didn't try them but I am not convinced about it - let say up to 6 months).
Regarding purchases of plants in e-shops. I think that if the delivery takes longer than 4 - 6 days it's risky to buy but it's my personal opinion. There were also opinions here in our forum on quality of plants received from Malaysia (2 weeks long delivery): moss generally did not survive while bulb plants needed time but were quite good at the end. I bought moss balls from UK and they were OK (3 days in delivery). In an e-shop you are not able to check quality of plants - picture is picture...
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Now if only I could find some decent plants in Dublin

Had a look in a couple of my fish shops (I only use a couple), and neither had any plants worth talking about. Hopefully a new delivery will arrive soon.
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alan, there is purrfect pets on the longmile road, stephen gets tropica plants in and can order what you want (look up tropica.com get the codes from the e-catalogue)
seahorse just round the corner from red cow have had good plants and massive variety in before, but the last few times they were un-labelled (i had a very specific plant list and am pants at plant id so i need the names)
i think fins fur and feathers in swords do tropica, i know there were some lovely mother plants there last time i was up that way, but i haven't been there for a while you may ring gavin
i would not trust internet sites for anything other than dry goods, and at that you really do want to go for very secure shopping from a reputible seller
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is that cabomba on the right? if so, there's another thread about it and stretnik (plant expert) says its best to leave it floating till roots develop on it, then plant it, else the plant will rot away. good tip!
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I just put the lights on for 4 hours in the evening at the moment.
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if you have just a few plants the normal 8-9 hrs is fine. think of how much light we have here, usually the sun is up and bright by 8/9am and starts going dark by 5pm, giving us 8-9 hrs of useful light this time of year
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I spotter a rather large piece of twisty wood yesterday so bought it. I rearranged the tank to accommodate it. Here's the way the tank looks now,

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I'd say it'll syphon out easily enough if needs be. If harmless I don't mind leaving it there. Are Apple Snails South American?
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Unsure whether to fix the artificial rock to the back of my tank. It's pricey and don't want to buy it and then not like it, does it look good/real and do you think the fish pefer it to a plain glass background?
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I'm just in the process of setting up a new 100g tank and I'm looking at an amazon style with light coloured sand and bog wood. What type of sand/gravel did you get and where did you get it if you don't mind me asking. Also what size tank do you have. I'm a few weeks behind your set up.
Unsure whether to fix the artificial rock to the back of my tank. It's pricey and don't want to buy it and then not like it, does it look good/real and do you think the fish pefer it to a plain glass background?
I used silver sand and I got it in Lisburn. I'm sure it's easy enough to get anywhere. My tank is similar size to yours, it holds 468 litres. I think that's around the 100 gallon.
I don't have artificial rock in my tank, but I have had it a few years ago in a previous tank, one of those living back grounds. I didn't really like it and ended up taking it out. I have pictures of it. I'll put a couple up later when I get back to the lap top. I think the fish look better with a dark back ground, whether they prefer it or not is another thing!
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I didn't like it, I neglected the tank and eventually ripped it out and started again.
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