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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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18 Apr 2010 23:59 #1 by mickdeja (Mick Whelan)
Once upon a time an apple snail got dropped into me tank and he lived well munchin on cucumber, broccli and shit. He soon was joined with 4 more snail friends. They had two baddy angelfish that pecked at them every so often and then one by one they started to die about four months after droppin them in to the tank, there is one now left and he is not as active as he used to be, the same story as all the rest of his buddies, started off flyin around the tank and then hardly moves at all, there was no loaches to bother them and as far as i know the baddy angels were the only baddies in the tank towards the poor apple snails, so why did all me snails die.......

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19 Apr 2010 00:03 #2 by Gerry The Chip (Gerard)
I have a few snails in 2 tanks 2 of them are apple snails and my Chinese alge eaters were going for them every time they tried to moved so i moved them to a smaller tank and now my dwarf gouramis are after them theres no end to it, my snails will probably end up the way yours did:(
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19 Apr 2010 00:06 #3 by mickdeja (Mick Whelan)
Me mates tank is the same the gouamis and angels bounce of his snails as well, but not enough to kill them i would think as they only get a little peck in and the snail uses his shell for cover so could it be something else, to my knowledge they are gettin enough food the same as the other bottom dwellers but they die, no other fish has died in months, puzzled???

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19 Apr 2010 00:06 - 19 Apr 2010 00:10 #4 by Alex (Alex)
Replied by Alex (Alex) on topic Re:Snail Conundrum..........
Ye id say the Angels did it... most cichlids will just pick at the apple snail whenever it try's to move... I made the same mistake when i first got apple snails.. they didnt last very long. Do u notice when the apple snail try's to get to the surface to breath do ur angels pick at him and he falls back down...?
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19 Apr 2010 00:40 #5 by Daragh_Owens (Daragh Owens)
I had the same problem with Apples dying and there were no fish that would bother them, it was that my water was too soft, their shells deteriorated and they died. I keep them separately now in a hard water tank and they are fine.

Do you still have the angels and are they still bothering the snail, because that would certainly not help matters.

A dead apple snail, especially a large one will pollute a tank, they go "off" very easily. If you suspect one might have died sniff him and you will be in no doubt when he has moved on!


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19 Apr 2010 18:07 #6 by mickdeja (Mick Whelan)
One snail left and the angels are still at him, he is not as active as he used to be either, oh well lesson learned, NO more snails then...:(

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19 Apr 2010 21:38 #7 by Xeon (ioan micu)
I use to breed both angels(still do), and apple snails(Pomacea bridgesii). I never found as a problem the angels picking at the snails not even if they were tiny snail babies. The angels will try alright but the snails will learn to stay inside ther shell and just hoover any leftovers from the angels. I did try them with diferent other fish as well an they are well able to stay away from fish nips.

I whould say just what Daragh said above, I think it's much more of a water issue, not water quality just the right parameters for them, they need a lot of calcium in the water, ph above 7 it's a must otherwise their shell just melts in time and they became more inactive and can't even stay away from the fish bothering them.

My water it's too soft for the pomacea now to give them a big tank with the right water but i'm still breeding striped snails, red ramshorns and to my surprise the yellow sulawesi snails started breeding again at 22°C.

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20 Apr 2010 18:15 #8 by mickdeja (Mick Whelan)
Sounds about right man, my water is way soft with all the bogwood in it, Cheers Xeon...........

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