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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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06 Jul 2010 21:11 #1 by r2potat2 (Derek Martin)
i want to breed fish as food for my fry and older fish

so i want shrimp that breed fast and breed loads and grow fast. i am currently breeding brine shrimp for my fry.
so any infor or advice lads

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06 Jul 2010 23:04 #2 by Ma (mm mm)
Replied by Ma (mm mm) on topic Re:shrimp
What fish are you planning to feed, fry will be fine with Brine, adults on the other hand. I breed, well I say "I". Cherry shrimp breed in my tanks with no help from me. Once there is food and decent conditions it is all they need.

Feed my two hngry hungry Eels that Denis is now taking, thankfully as they will not let a bit of meat get to the others. Cherries, I pop em in and the Eels nip off and hide, they go into hunting mode immediately and won't accept them from my hand.


PM me if your looking for a starter breeding bunch for a fair price. Great strain Hardy bright deep red at adult size.. and delicious to fish:)

Saying all that, if the fish are large as in 12" then Cherry ae too small, it would take many to feed fish that size that you'd have to have 100s of adults.


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06 Jul 2010 23:11 #3 by r2potat2 (Derek Martin)
Replied by r2potat2 (Derek Martin) on topic Re:shrimp
i have a shovel nose (new spices) really nice fish he is only about 7" but the shrimp would be mainly for 2 hoplo's and a syno

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06 Jul 2010 23:22 - 06 Jul 2010 23:34 #4 by Ma (mm mm)
Replied by Ma (mm mm) on topic Re:shrimp
Cherrys grow to 3cm so by that you can asses if they are big enough for feeding your fish.


Mark

EDIT: Shovel Nose Catfish, like 30" full grown? Make that 1000s of Cherry shrimp:)
Would Guppies not be a better higher protein source? Easy to breed.

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07 Jul 2010 11:47 #5 by r2potat2 (Derek Martin)
Replied by r2potat2 (Derek Martin) on topic Re:shrimp
im breeding mollies and platys for him i have 13 fry in a tank now

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07 Jul 2010 12:31 #6 by JohnH (John)
Replied by JohnH (John) on topic Re:shrimp
Does this Fish only eat live food? Hoplos and Synodontis will eat prepared foods.

Try it on earthworms - I would guess it will accept them, although you might just need to acclimatise it to them.

I once had to look after a Shovelnose for a friend and that would eat Trout pellets, as well as Prawns, Shrimps and Cockles.

Another thing you might want to try (if you can get them) is Whitebait, they're like small Sprats and sold in Fishmongers.

It somehow sounds not quite right to be breeding Fish and Shrimps merely to feed as live food, a bit callous really - but maybe I'm being a bit 'delicate' - I wouldn't do it, but that's just me.

John

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We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl - year after year.


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It's a long way to Tipperary.

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07 Jul 2010 12:43 #7 by Ma (mm mm)
Replied by Ma (mm mm) on topic Re:shrimp

It somehow sounds not quite right to be breeding Fish and Shrimps merely to feed as live food, a bit callous really - but maybe I'm being a bit 'delicate' - I wouldn't do it, but that's just me.

John



In the wild there is a lot of attrition that doesn't happen in an aquarium. Do you eat meat eggs dairy products ect? This is pretty much the same thing for your aquarium.
Someone is breeding them and freezing them and packing them off to lfs so buying frozen food means you are paying someone else to do it for you:) I can be sure of the quality of my live food too, another benefit for my fishies:)

I probably would have been better off with something from a fishmonger for the Eels and Upsidedown Cats, never thought of it, I'm a bit slow I am sure of it:)




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07 Jul 2010 13:14 #8 by JohnH (John)
Replied by JohnH (John) on topic Re:shrimp
Mark:

Do you eat meat eggs dairy products ect?


Certainly I do - I never suggested the live-food breeding procedure shouldn't be done, merely that it seemed quite callous and wouldn't be for me. In just the same way as I wouldn't rear, say, a sheep for my consumption.
Earthworms are living creatures but the difference, I think, with those is that you actually gather them from out of the ground, likewise with aquatic larvae - they're taken from their own environment.

Forums (Fora?) exist for people to express personal views and opinions, and long may it remain so. Because I personally wouldn't do something it doesn't mean to say I should be telling you not to - democracy is the name of the game here.

John

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07 Jul 2010 13:32 #9 by Ma (mm mm)
Replied by Ma (mm mm) on topic Re:shrimp
True enough, we all see things in our own way. Poking a jovial stick at you I guess and never thought I was being judged, I'm just a jerk surely that should be apparent by now:) If opinions are offered questions are legitimate though:) I do agree I couldn't kill and eat a sheep I raised.

I had started shrimp keeping, they just mulitply out of control.

You would have to breed a lot of platy and molly fish to have a constant food supply for a large catfish looking at some on tube and the amount they eat and it would take too long and too much effort to be growning adults as food, even then an adult molly is a snippet to a large catfish, several a day possibly?

Some of the suggested prawns and larger shrimp would be the ticket and handy as you won't need a breeding operation to feed the growning monster.




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07 Jul 2010 14:53 #10 by dyco619 (steve carmody)
Replied by dyco619 (steve carmody) on topic Re:shrimp
what about maggots, my bigger fish go mad for them, and there only 3 0r 4euro for a pint.

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07 Jul 2010 18:59 #11 by Gerry The Chip (Gerard)
Replied by Gerry The Chip (Gerard) on topic Re:shrimp
I just think thats its such a waste to feed any type of fish shrimp, Shrimp cost anything from €4 upwards each why not sell them and make a little profit like my good owl forum buddy Mark :laugh:

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