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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

shrimp for cleaning eggs

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06 Sep 2010 19:32 #1 by john gannon (john gannon)
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just wodering what shrimp are best for keepin cory eggs fungus free
thanks john

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06 Sep 2010 19:36 #2 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
For keeping them fungus free? Id say try Methylene blue. The shrimp may even eat them to be honest.Unless someone can advise me otherwise,I dont think shrimp keep these cory eggs fungus free.

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06 Sep 2010 20:56 #3 by john gannon (john gannon)
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thanks gavin i was under the impression that they helped keep them clean [wrong again],not mad on the meth blue method it stains everything anything elsze anybody
john

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06 Sep 2010 21:31 #4 by Melander (Andreas Melander)
Hi, I have not tried this myself yet but "pleco guru" Ingo Seidel recommends malaysian trumpet snails (in Back to Nature) for keeping pleco eggs nice and clean. He punctures any dead eggs so that the snails can eat them and describes how the snails clean the healthy eggs without harming them.
Should work for cory eggs too?

I have been wanting to try this but surprisingly I can't find any snails.

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06 Sep 2010 22:06 #5 by Daragh_Owens (Daragh Owens)
john gannon wrote:

just wodering what shrimp are best for keepin cory eggs fungus free
thanks john


John

I have tried several shrimp and snails and had success with the all bar the Amanos, they ate some of the eggs, so you could try Cherries or Crystals or MTS snails, I have video footage somewhere of the snails crawling over the eggs and keeping them clean and never damaging good eggs.

I would not use Meth Blue at all, it is toxic to the eggs in small amounts and toxic to the fry in virtually any amount.

If you want to use something antibiotic Almond leaves or alder cones are good.

There was a great bit of research done of the egg survival rate using different methods, Meth Blue, Almond Leaves, Clean water and something else I can't recall, the clean water was the best!! Meth Blue was by far the worse. The research also reported on deformities and early deaths or the fry, it was not restricted to eg hatch success rates.

I know Meth Blue has been used for years, but is generally frowned on now for egg hatching.

What corys are they or need I ask :-)


Daragh

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06 Sep 2010 22:51 #6 by sheag35 (Seamus Gillespie)
derek uses cherry shrimp for his cory eggs and he has brilliant results started using them myself now with good success, they only eat the fungused ones

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06 Sep 2010 23:04 #7 by Daragh_Owens (Daragh Owens)
Derek also uses baby bristlenose as hatchery housekeepers and they work too, I have tried it and they're great.


Daragh

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06 Sep 2010 23:42 #8 by JohnH (John)
john gannon wrote:

just wodering what shrimp are best for keepin cory eggs fungus free
thanks john

John,
I saw this question earlier and it has been admirably answered but I just wanted to add my two-penn'orth.
Nothing in the world will stop infertile eggs from becoming fungussed, likewise damaged eggs...fungus will spread over from the 'dead' eggs and form a cover over the viable eggs, but, in my experience, will not kill those good eggs.
This is where the 'cleaners' come in handy by keeping those eggs free of fungus but I have had eggs hatch inside a 'fungus shroud' and the fry work their way through it...but far better if they don't have to.
John

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N. Tipp

We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl - year after year.


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07 Sep 2010 14:24 #9 by platty252 (Darren Dalton)
JohnH wrote:I have had eggs hatch inside a 'fungus shroud' and the fry work their way through it. John[/quote]

I've had this happen myself.

I have a some Rineloricaria fallax eggs at the moment which seem to be prone to fungus.
I put 2 Amano and 4 cherries in with them but unfortunately the fungus grows to quick for them to keep up.
I think i will have to try about 20 shrimp next time.

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07 Sep 2010 18:07 #10 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
Cheers lads,Ive learned something new from this topic anyhow!Sorry John,i didnt know this one. Good to hear,I have about 30 cherrys in the hatch doing a job so!

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08 Sep 2010 01:20 #11 by Xeon (ioan micu)
"I think i will have to try about 20 shrimp next time".

Try to get the right amount. I had shrimp finishing the fungus and then they started on the eggs. Hope it's only me.

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08 Sep 2010 20:09 #12 by john gannon (john gannon)
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thanks for the replies all
@daragh it was the bronzes all the eggs are fungused now i didnt want to use meth blue it takes 3 days to get it of me hands never mind anything else
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08 Sep 2010 20:22 #13 by Daragh_Owens (Daragh Owens)
If that was there first time, don't worry, they might not have got it right, but they will.

Meth Blue is a pain to get off, it stains silicone too.

Cheers


Daragh

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08 Sep 2010 20:40 #14 by DJK (David Kinsella)
John,

I've bred Bronze Cory with some good success in the past and I'd suggest to move the eggs which are not already close to good water flow to perhaps a breeding net and then place that to a location within the tank with better flow. On the other hand it's very possible that the eggs were not fertilised in the first place which has happened to me on more than one occasion! The good thing is, when these lads are in the mood you don't have to wait too long for the next batch of eggs to come along.

Dave

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08 Sep 2010 21:58 #15 by john gannon (john gannon)
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just put a light on the tank and i have wrigglers [tiny] the eggs were laid last wed/thurs when will i b able to feed them
john

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08 Sep 2010 22:14 - 08 Sep 2010 22:34 #16 by DJK (David Kinsella)
If the eggs were laid on say Thursday, they probably hatched on Sunday sometime. They live off their egg yolk sacs for about 3 days after that which means feeding can start from now. I use liquifry (for egglayers) for a week or so after that before moving them on to Tabimin. This works well for me. Do small 15% water changes every couple of days to keep the water as clean as possible for the first few months and all should be well. Best of luck!!

Dave


Edit: Also, if you are using Liquifry, use a bit less than the stated dosage as it makes a bit of a mess of your water and these little lads don't need a whole lot to sustain them.

If and when you are using Tabimin keep an eye on your filter for clogging. This may sound bad but this stuff is custom made for Cory fry.
Last edit: 08 Sep 2010 22:34 by DJK (David Kinsella). Reason: Addition

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08 Sep 2010 22:17 #17 by john gannon (john gannon)
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will do thanks
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09 Sep 2010 00:05 #18 by Daragh_Owens (Daragh Owens)
Exactly as DJK says, and if you have any Brineshrimp going for anything else, they will do great on that too.



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