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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

Urgent - help needed immediately - Dublin 8

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11 Sep 2014 19:10 #1 by Miamiheat (Stephane Lemaire)
Guys i came back home to a flooded apartment.
Right now I am scooping water everywhere as I can but this is going to turn complicated. Wood floor and carpets in bedrooms totally soaked.
So i could use help in different ways:

- help to keep on drying stuff and move things around - one of these dry vacs hoovers that can suck up water, even the carpet cleaning ones
- carpets and wood floor are soaked so in the next day or so my fish tanks have to go, and the furniture, so that carpets and wood can be removed

so please whatever you can do to help will be appreciated

Stephane
This is in Kilmainham Square on Inchicore road
Dublin 8
my number 0879010793

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11 Sep 2014 19:21 - 11 Sep 2014 19:22 #2 by JohnH (John)
Stephane,
I'm too far away to be able to offer any physical help but am certain there will be local members who will be able to give assistance.
I sincerely hope this gets sorted very quickly and also hope that you didn't lose any fish with the flooding.
All I can offer is sympathy (no help at all! - I realise that) and the hope that you get the help you deserve.

John

Location:
N. Tipp

We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl - year after year.


ITFS member.



It's a long way to Tipperary.
Last edit: 11 Sep 2014 19:22 by JohnH (John). Reason: Spelling

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11 Sep 2014 21:00 #3 by Jim (Jim Lawlor)
Stephane - real sorry to hear about that - its a nightmare. I dont have a wet vacuum, but if I understand, you need storage space while drying your place out?

Maybe someone close has a garage of a spare room?

I'm in Kildare but I'm hoping to get a lockup in walkinstown at the end of the month- if thats what you need - I'll see if I can get it early? (No promises, just a faint hope . . . . )

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11 Sep 2014 21:02 #4 by Joekinsella (joe Kinsella)
Really sorry to hear this Stephane. Like john distance is a problem not as far but without a car I might as well be in Spain. I really hope your fish are alive and offer my sympathy too.
Tank bust?

Location: Clogherboy Navan.

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11 Sep 2014 21:35 #5 by Homer (Kevin)
Stephane, you can store stuff at my House.

Kev.

The Glass is always greener on the other side.


It's NOT "Chee lick", NOT "Chee Chee Licks"!!! Cichlids is pronounced as "Sick Lids"!!!!!

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11 Sep 2014 21:51 #6 by platty252 (Darren Dalton)
That's disastrous news Stephane.
Unfortunately I don't have the stuff you need.

If needed I can empty a tank and hold 10-15 adult Discus (or equivalent ) for you.

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11 Sep 2014 21:52 #7 by Miamiheat (Stephane Lemaire)
Thank you very much guys.
No dead fish - no tank bust. Just a stupid hose that slid out of the water aging barrel. I had been careful with it but it is in the laundry room and my guess is the vibration of the washer/dryer must have induced it to slide out.
This was made worse by the fact that I have setup up a constant water feed to the barrel and water stops when barrel is full - but it was not getting full...

I am arranging storage a van for tomorrow to get furniture out of the way. Problem is fish tanks and more importantly their inhabitants: that is 9 tanks.

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11 Sep 2014 21:54 #8 by Miamiheat (Stephane Lemaire)

That's disastrous news Stephane.
Unfortunately I don't have the stuff you need.

If needed I can empty a tank and hold 10-15 adult Discus (or equivalent ) for you.

That would help. Can you PM me your number?
thanks

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11 Sep 2014 21:58 #9 by Jim (Jim Lawlor)
Fair play Darren & Kev - that's what makes this forum, despite the occasional bit of whinging . . . .

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11 Sep 2014 22:11 #10 by Darkslice (Stephen Walsh)
If you need a hand on Sunday, then I'm only to happy to help stephane.

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11 Sep 2014 22:15 #11 by swai (Simon)
That's not good stephane! I have 2 460 liter tanks empty at home if you needed to store fish but would be a case of a fast and quick set up method ie organic aqua but don't know what you would think about that or if your fish are suitable.

My day off is Sunday, think u still have my number? I've no spare external filters though.

Marino, Dublin 9

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11 Sep 2014 23:24 #12 by baan (Fintan Breen)
so sorry to hear that Miami! I hope all is ok! I'm no use to you but crossing my fingers for you!

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11 Sep 2014 23:38 #13 by irish-zx10r (James feenan)
I have a 190L running If u need to home fish until u get sorted I also have 1500w heater that heat up water straight away if that's any help only thing is I few mile from kilbeggan / tullamore sorry to here hope u get sorted asap

James

Something fishie going on here

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11 Sep 2014 23:49 #14 by Aroshni (Lydia Olivera)
That's dreadful...I don't have enough room in my 180l for discus but I could put there some tropical fishes.

I'll be available for helping you there from 2pm so if someone from the southeast goes there I could use a lift to your place.

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12 Sep 2014 01:56 #15 by Miamiheat (Stephane Lemaire)
Thank you all very much.It will be easier for me to ask specific help once i know what will need to be done to the apartment. So please bear with me.
I have spent all evening scooping water and moving furniture in bedrooms so i could tear away and remove the carpets.
I realise 4 of my smaller tanks are not in the way of any works that could be done on the apartment floors. I shut down 2 tanks that were containing breeding pairs and they went to the main 450L. That leaves me with 3 big tanks that are in the way: 2 in the living room and 1 in the spare bedroom. However the later is split in 2 by blue foam and on one side I have a breeding pair of discus with tons of fry (first time getting to that stage with such a quantity of fry) and in the other half i have 10 fry about 6 weeks old.
That tank has to be moved because it is on top of a big chunk of soaked carpet. I really dont know if the fry/parents can be moved without this turning into disaster. Any suggestions?

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12 Sep 2014 09:20 - 12 Sep 2014 11:01 #16 by JohnH (John)
I fear, Stephane, that the only option I can see for you to take will be to firstly move the more established fry to a spare tank (filled with the water from the tank they're in now) and then - to the fry on the other side of the divider. Although I am not a Discus breeder I can only suggest what I would do if faced with the same set of circumstances and that would be to take away the parents firstly then move the fry to (yet) another spare tank, again filled with water from the tank they're in now.
Obviously it depends on how long it has been since they were hatched as to whether they will be established enough to survive, but regular small feeds of freshly-hatched brine shrimp could see them over the loss of the parental mucus as food.
Another thing to try would be to move the parents and then the fry into another tank (together) with the hope that the parental urge is strong enough to overcome the trauma of this move. I have done this several times successfully with both Dwarf and non-dwarf Cichlids but have no idea whether or not this ploy could be as successful with Discus.
But, in the words of the old saying - "Desperate times bring about desperate measures" so it might work.
As I said from the start, this is only saying what I would try, if faced with the same awful scenario.

Perhaps others here can offer more positive advice?

Best of luck with whatever way you choose.

John

Location:
N. Tipp

We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl - year after year.


ITFS member.



It's a long way to Tipperary.
Last edit: 12 Sep 2014 11:01 by JohnH (John). Reason: added an edit

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12 Sep 2014 10:17 #17 by hammie (Neil Hammerton)
If you were to empty half the tank and move the older fry and parents to one of the other tanks, do you think it would be possible at that stage ( with a few bodies and a bitta man power to move the tank (very carefully) off the carpet? Probably a non runner but desperate times and all that!!!!

Im working all weekend so wouldnt be in a position to help unfortunately
I wish you all the best and hope the insurance etc sorts things out quickly!

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12 Sep 2014 10:34 #18 by irish-zx10r (James feenan)
on what hammy said use big barrel or another tank move enough water to move your tank then fill the water back into the tank a wheelie bin be better idea

Something fishie going on here

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12 Sep 2014 10:58 #19 by JohnH (John)
I fear that a 450l tank (no light weight as an empty item) would be very difficult to move even partially filled - not to mention the potentially intolerable stress which would be caused to both the glass and the silicone seal. It really sounds to me like a disaster waiting to happen.
John

Location:
N. Tipp

We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl - year after year.


ITFS member.



It's a long way to Tipperary.

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12 Sep 2014 11:43 #20 by paulv (paul vickers)
Hi Stephane, thats a real headach for you, I can't offer you any tank as your fish will be just dinner in my tanks, however I do have a vax wet/dry carpet cleaner I'd be happy to loan you for as long as you need. I'm in Rathcoole so close by, can drop it to you this evening if im not working or tomorrow. PM me if thats any help. I've strong arms and will work for coffee :laugh:

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12 Sep 2014 13:27 #21 by JustinK (Justin Kelly)
If you drain off at least 50% you will be able to move the tank along the floor. It getting the carpet in and out if the delicate part. Big crow bar/gorilla bar will do.
Is this happening soon or past ?
Posted 12sept2014

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12 Sep 2014 13:31 #22 by LemonJelly (Johnny Cowley)
I've moved tanks with fish in them. I just drain the tank until the largest fish have only 1-2 inch clearance. Largest I've done it with is a 180L tank.

"The only thing that burns in Hell is the part of you that won't let go of your life; your memories, your attachments. They burn them all away. But they're not punishing you.They're freeing your soul."

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12 Sep 2014 13:35 #23 by hammie (Neil Hammerton)
What i have done in the past is, empty enough water from the tank that 3 or 4 lads can move the tank along with the cabnite!!!

As long as you keep everything level and move carefully it is possible!!!
(Just not easy)

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12 Sep 2014 14:43 #24 by alan 64 (alan)
sorry to hear this mate is there any ceiling damage or did it happen at ground floor level

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12 Sep 2014 17:40 #25 by Miamiheat (Stephane Lemaire)
Again thanks again guys. This is like an emotional rollercoaster.
Answering to all comments. That pair and fry are in a 284L on a rack. I have a feeling i may get away by emptying most of the water. I actually need to lift the whole thing enough to move the carpet, then i can set it down again. So thank you for the ideas. And worse come to worse I lose the fry and they will breed again. That is if i decide to keep my tanks.
My renters insurance said they would not cover it. It is 8th floor and so far we have reports of water damage on 7th and 6th floor: I am vey scared.
What is defnitely happening is that I am selling a few tanks:

60l Red cherry shrimp tank
96l Guppy tank with corys and BN pleco
116l Angelfish tank with corys

these 3 are full of plants.

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12 Sep 2014 18:11 #26 by JohnH (John)
Oh dear - I was fearing damage to the floors below.
This is every fishkeeper's nightmare - especially those living in flats and apartments.

I really hope this can be worked out amicably and that you don't get so disheartened that the fish have to go.

John

Location:
N. Tipp

We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl - year after year.


ITFS member.



It's a long way to Tipperary.

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12 Sep 2014 19:05 #27 by Homer (Kevin)
God Stephane,

I am so sorry this has happened to you, I wish I could say or do something to help you out, no need to reply just wanted you to know.

Kev.

The Glass is always greener on the other side.


It's NOT "Chee lick", NOT "Chee Chee Licks"!!! Cichlids is pronounced as "Sick Lids"!!!!!

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12 Sep 2014 22:41 #28 by Q_Comets (Declan Chambers)
Sorry I can't assist you, being so far away. Hope things work out for you.

Rgds
Dec

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13 Sep 2014 10:30 #29 by Miamiheat (Stephane Lemaire)
Guys i cant stress enough how grateful I am for all the moral support and the offers for physical/fish storage help.
Some of the help I requested is no longer needed as the apartment is dry.
Some other help which i may have rushed in asking for I may need sooner or later => i realise it will take a few days to get to a plan of action with the management agency. I have shut down some tanks and just to lighten up the load I will sell my non essential tanks (guppies.RCS ...) When the time comes to move the bigger ones I will post.
At this stage for me it is packing some stuff and moving some furniture to a storage (i just need to pack the rest is sorted). So that the rooms are less crowded and if work needs to be done on them there is not a ton of things in the way.

Thanks again

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19 Sep 2014 12:02 #30 by Delboy (Derek)
Hi Stephane,
I have a locked container that is only 1/2 full if that helps and I am not far from you and can I can also help you move some gear if this relieves any stress.
Sorry I didnt see this topic earlier.
Derek

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