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Hi,
John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.
I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.
With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.
I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.
If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.
I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.
I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.
Thank you
Darragh Sherwin
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24 Apr 2011 16:48 #1
by dar (darren curry)
wat is your favourite method of catching fish?
and wat is your favourite lure, spinner, bait, fly etc etc....
mine is spinning although i am a novice at the oul fishing game.
and my favourite spinner? hmmmm let me think.....i dont have one as everytime i get one it ends up in a tree down in firhouse
and fly fishing? i swear to god i actually had numerous nightmares about it, the dam thing broke my heart so i smashed the rod and gave it all up
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24 Apr 2011 17:46 - 24 Apr 2011 17:47 #2
by David (David)
Depends of the type of Fish i am after
Pike Float Fishing Using dead bait not very good with spinners
Coarse Fish i prefer ledgering all though i am more successful with the float tried pole fishing a couple and i am S**t at it that truly is a skill which i don’t poses
Carp with all the modern day tackle and baits there are i still find a piece of floating bread to be the most fun, The swirl of water and the air gulp just before your line races across the water what a buzz and in my opinion unbeatable
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26 Apr 2011 16:12 #5
by zale (Mark carroll)
I occasionally coarse fish but love trawling & dead-baiting for pike. The lakes in the midlands spit out some monsters but a smaller river pike will fight like a bitch.
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26 Apr 2011 16:24 #6
by joey (joe watson)
i've only startedoff in the hobby, and at the moment i just float or spin. have a few bits of gear for other types of fishing, just need pointing in the right direction... (kinda "all the gear but no idea")
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26 Apr 2011 19:08 - 26 Apr 2011 19:08 #7
by christyg (Chris Geraghty)
only thing that beats that is a fresh run bar of silver about 10lb
Have to agree with you on that one
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03 May 2011 21:45 #8
by fourmations (NIall SMyth)
hi all
im into angling big time and have been for years
i was in a club and used to fish matches
i coarse fish on the pole, waggler, feeder, whatever,
i fish them all.... lakes, the canals and rivers
i also fish the dodder on the fly regularly in the evening
favourite method is trotting with a stick float or the dry fly
(not really into wet fly fishing unless i have to)
cheers
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10 May 2011 12:37 #9
by wastegate (Joseph Farrell)
I'm only a novice at coarse fishing but I find I get the best results from feeder fishing. Iv fished with my father in law who tried to convince me that float fishing was better, in the end i had to set him up on a feeder rig as the score was about 9-1.
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10 May 2011 16:22 #10
by joey (joe watson)
i have trouble getting anything to take from a feeder - half a bag of ground bait with corn and maggots and the same on the feeder and nothing takes. what do you find the best time for using a feeder? i was out in the eveniings and in spots where fish are coming up for flies so maybe thats my problem straight off...
found a trout fisherie in stradbally (10 mins from me) well stocked regularly and you can pay for fish you want to take home, but only floats with worms or fly fishing is allowed so no chance to try different methods in a lake where there are plenty of fish
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10 May 2011 19:20 #11
by David (David)
Feeder fishing
Be accurate in casting always try for the same spot.
ground bait needs to be just right in consistency if its to dry it will disperse the minute the feeder hits the water sending bait away from were you are fishing and also any potential fish if its to moist it wont dissolve in the water again not having the best impact, I find the best way to check consistency of ground bait you should be able to make a solid ball in your hands with it then apply a little pressure and it should fall apart. I personally have never found any difference between fishing morning afternoon or evening.
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11 May 2011 10:26 #12
by wastegate (Joseph Farrell)
I find the best time for feeder fishing for me anyways, is evening usually come 7 o'clock. David makes a good point about the ground bait consistency. I usually make up a small ball and drop it in the water just in front of me too see how it sinks. Plus if you have too many maggots in it, they can wriggle your ball of ground bait apart before it hits the bottom.
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11 May 2011 16:23 #13
by joey (joe watson)
i hear there's a way to kill the maggots for groundbaiting to stop them breaking it up, something about a type of tea? is this right? and how would one do it?
also does anyone use attractants on thier bait when float fishing?
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11 May 2011 16:59 #14
by David (David)
I have never heard of putting maggots in tea to kill them although i am sure its been done by someone.
If i was trying to kill maggots I cover the container with Clingfilm and leave them for a few hours or you could just cover them with cold water again leave them for a few hours, both ways work.
Another option would be to freeze them this wont kill them outright and they might revive as the day progresses and I think this would be the better option.
I try not to use additives unless I am fishing a lake that has not been fishing well in recent times and the only reason I would use them then is just to try and stir the fish up a little give the something different a couple of cheap options for this would be custard powder or strawberry milkshake powder mixed straight in with your ground bait.
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14 May 2011 19:59 #15
by joey (joe watson)
the tea thing was something on a browning dvd that a mate got with a new rod, about using dead maggots when feedering so they dont wriggle the groundbait loose
but good tips there about the custard/milkshake powder - i even think the groundbait i have (its pink in a red bag for all sorts of course fish) has strawberry powder in - it smells like a sweet cake mix (but tastes not exactly as such..
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16 May 2011 23:56 #16
by fourmations (NIall SMyth)
hi lads
the key to feeder fishing is using the line clip,
cast out to where you want it and put you line under the clip on your spool
that means every time you cast you will hit the line clip and presto
youre in the same spot
if bites are hard to come by use a longer hooklenght
if you start missing bites (sucked maggots) shorten the tail
dont use too much loose offerings in the feeder unless the fish
are really "having it"
David, in my experience covering the maggots with clingfilm wont kill them
i keep my maggots in a completely airtight bag for up to three days in the fridge
and they come back to life after about 20-30 minutes,
pour a little cold water on them and gradually add boiling water
til they die, ifyou scald them toofast they will stretch out and lose their plumpness,
i tend to use casters a lot in the feed and donr bother with deads much
but i always have some in the freezer if i cant make the tackle shop
on groundbaits...sensas explosive feeder is one of the best, mix 50/50 with plain crumb
(preferably black crumb)
feeder is the easiest method to catch on and get used to in my experience
youre feeding consistantly and the bait being "nailed" to the bottom
helps with a lot of species
hope this helps
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24 Jul 2011 00:57 #18
by davey_c (dave clarke)
just thought i'd stick it in but i'm a very active flyfisher on the local liffey, of all the methods ive done its my favourite. lately i've been thinking of going for wild trouth instead of stockies and was wundering has anyone gone that way before?
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24 Jul 2011 01:12 #19
by JohnH (John)
You'll find the wild trout rather less-cooperative than the ones you've been accustomed to catching - much more of a challenge but all the more rewarding when you do catch any.
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We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl - year after year.
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24 Jul 2011 09:57 #20
by john gannon (john gannon)
my favorate way is my lfs i really cant beleive there are so many people here that profess to love fish then go stick a hook out in the water so they can drag one out for fun or sport as you so call it and thyen boast about it .honestly i cant understand why there is an angling section on this site as i think its akin to dying fish maybe we should have a died fish section to see who has the nicest tatoo on theirs
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24 Jul 2011 11:58 #21
by davey_c (dave clarke)
JohnH, yea its the challenge that entices me haha, would take a bit of homework on fly selection but as you say the rewarding feeling would be greater
John Gannon, as you say its a sport and based on "catch and release" the majority of the fish i catch are returned to the waters unharmed to be caught another day maybe by another angler of whome we hope do the same.its a very relaxing sport and quickly becomes a way of life. yes some are brought home for the dinner plate but i don't see that in any other respect than buying fresh cod, smoked salmon or even a tin of tuna.... i see your point but i'm not into football so i gotta have a hobby
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24 Jul 2011 12:56 #22
by john gannon (john gannon)
hunting for food is ok and im fine with its the hunting for sport that i cant see the sense as its cruel and barbaric imo and because you put the fish back for some other fella to come and drag it out again with a big steel hook is even worse
that type of talk has no place on a forum like this
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24 Jul 2011 13:15 #23
by JohnH (John)
John,to each his own.
I see Angling as no worse than keeping fish in tanks which would equate to little more than a puddle - or, at best, a tiny pool - in the wild.
This section was set up by way of an experiment - at the request of Forum members and equally easily can be ended...again, by request of Forum members.
Later on I will set up a poll in 'Website Suggestions' and enable everyone to express their opinions. For myself I see no harm in it since the only way to see the Angling Section is to be logged in and - respectfully - no-one who wants to look at it is forced to.
Unfortunately, with so little posts of substance any more, we are all looking at every post, many of which - under better circumstances - would pass unnoticed to anyone not interested in the subject.
These are JohnH's views as a member of the Forum and not with his administrator's hat on.
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24 Jul 2011 14:32 #24
by davey_c (dave clarke)
i am assuming you know very little about flyfishing because the fish has as much a chance as the fisherman, you win some and loose some... to compare it to hunting is barbaric unless with a bow, if you use a gun it leaves not much of a chance for the animal in question... i know because i also hunt.... i don't kill and leave it there because i don't see the point unless you eat it. i am restricted to barbless hooks to make removing the hook safe for the fish... i am also restricted to fish above 9" to take home, if i remove a fish of 8" i have to remove the hook and release the fish for the next lad to do the same.
think of it as population control
i do agree with JohnH.... to keep fish in such small living spaces compared to where they originate to some would seem like an act of cruelty but to us is totaly plausable...
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24 Jul 2011 15:46 #25
by dar (darren curry)
my favorate way is my lfs i really cant beleive there are so many people here that profess to love fish then go stick a hook out in the water so they can drag one out for fun or sport as you so call it and thyen boast about it .honestly i cant understand why there is an angling section on this site as i think its akin to dying fish maybe we should have a died fish section to see who has the nicest tatoo on theirs
john
then why have a fish forum at all? so we are going into wats right and wats wrong? fish keeping is wrong. locking a fish up for fun or entertainment is right? every now and then this pops it's ugly head. dont sit around moaning something is wrong when you are funding the death of fish yourself, think of the ammount of fish that are lost from the time they are born or in wild cases by the time they are caught to the time they reach fish shops, then to your tank, they wouldn't be imported only for people like you that have an interest in fish. think of the foods you buy that contain fish. dont start getting all moral because it is hypocritical on a fish keeping forum
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24 Jul 2011 16:31 #26
by JohnH (John)
Can we keep this a little less 'aerated' please - I realise opinions run high both for and against but we do seem to be raising passions and maybe some of it is become on the borderline of being unhealthy.
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24 Jul 2011 16:52 #27
by igmillichip (ian millichip)
I catch my fish in a net or by a large scoop....but that is in the tank.
I'm in 2 minds on my opinion of angling, and also on whether there should be a topic area for it in on a fish-keeping forum.
I don't go fishing, but have toyed with the idea several times in the past, and even tried it with little dedicated effort many years ago.
I'm sure that there are many pros and cons for fishing.....but I would personally prefer to see a debate on such a topic being done in an in-person forum properly chaired and not an internet forum.
I see JohnH has opened a thread asking for PMs to be sent to him, and he will collate such a poll.
I will respect JohnH's point that he has opened a poll and an option for people to express their opinions (if people wish them to be public), and so I will reply via PM my vote (and will probably allow JohnH to publish what I say....who knows).
I don't normally read the angling section, but would interested to see how this topic develops.
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24 Jul 2011 21:30 #28
by john gannon (john gannon)
thde majority of fish sold in lfs are trank bred and as far removed from lake malawi or were ever else they originate from that they hardly resemble the original and have never seen such vast amounts of water in the wild.as for getting all moral ill say and speak my mind as much as i like this is a public FISHKEEPING forum wshich is open to all and if you wish to talk about fishing why not join a fishing forum and talk about it to your hearts content
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25 Jul 2011 14:13 - 25 Jul 2011 14:15 #29
by dar (darren curry)
thde majority of fish sold in lfs are trank bred and as far removed from lake malawi or were ever else they originate from that they hardly resemble the original and have never seen such vast amounts of water in the wild.as for getting all moral ill say and speak my mind as much as i like this is a public FISHKEEPING forum wshich is open to all and if you wish to talk about fishing why not join a fishing forum and talk about it to your hearts content
john
ok why didn't you just say "net" seeing as though thats how yours are caught. this is the internet and we are all entiltled to our views and we are entiltled to speak things fish related. this section is hid from the main wall because of it not being everyones cup of tea, but at the end of the day it is about fish. can i ask you do you think fish die in transport? the price you pay for your fish covers these losses, contributing to a fishes death is the same thing no matter how you look at it...the way i see it is we have evolved to be able to do these things so why not do them we're hardly gonna burn in hell for utilising the tools we have been given. i think morals have no place in a FISHKEEPING forum if you want talk about morals join a bible club and talk morals till you're blue in the face. i catch and release my fish so they have a chance at a natural life till they die (although one got the oul bang of a branch in the nut..but i ate him with salt, cracked pepper, thyme and lemon, sounds delicious, but he was disgusting) you get your fish caught for you and you confine them in a box till they die, then it is flushed, buried or dumped in a bin. who's morally right?
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