Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)
Hi,
John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.
I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.
With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.
I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.
If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.
I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.
I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.
Thank you
Darragh Sherwin
40 gallon layout
The spec for this tank
40 gallon 30x18x18 inch DIY tank
Filtration Eheim 2215
Lighting 2x55W power compacts 1x18W T8
CO2 via 5kg fire extinguisher
PH controller
DIY external CO2 reactor
CO2 rate - 1 bubble per second
This tank is setup for over 2 years now so would be considered a mature setup, about 6 months ago I did a total stripdown on this tank, removed all the plants and totally cleaned the substrate and just started again as outlined below, its a good idea every year or so to do this in a planted setup it stops the substrate going stale, just use the same grit/gravel though, no need to change that just make sure its totally clean to start again.
The substrate for this tank is very basic, just ordinary horticultural grit from a garden centre, about €4.99 for a 25kg bag if memory serves me correctly, this stuff will scratch your glass if not careful but the grain size is very good for a planted setup, 2-3mm. I've grown most carpeting type plants in this tank with little issue, glosso and HC grow very well in this substrate, hairgrass seems to grow very slowly though, this is probably more down to the low KH in the water around here.
The only thing I did here was add a handful of ordinary moss peat beneath the substrate when the tank was setup, just a very light sprinkling is all thats needed, less than a fistful would be enough for this size tank, I also squeezed some mulm or fish waste from a mature filter and then covered the whole thing with the grit and added water. This basically helps to kick start a bacteria colony beneath the substrate which quickens its maturity by several months and helps give you a better chance of avoiding a prolonged period of algae with a new tank setup, but its a very basic substrate overall. Its also a good idea to use a mature filter when ever possible with a new planted setup, or if the filter is new try and seed it first of all from an existing cycled setup, all of these small easy to do things will help reduce algae at startup.
The fertiliseation routine is the same as the other tank using the PPS Pro formula for NPK and for trace I use another powdered fertiliser called CSM+B (complete secondary mix+boron).
This setup was started on the 13 May and needs some work yet, the ferns were probably about half the size when added to the tank first of all, these were grown out earlier in a different setup. Under high light ferns will grow quite fast.
Just started out with some dried out driftwood branches I collected some time earlier from a lakeside, set up a temporary table and worked from there. The jug in front contains moss which will be tied later to the driftwood.
This setup came together quite quickly, this is the basic initial design/arrangement from that day.
hmmm bolbitis, nice man
Added the bolbitis and tied the moss, the bolbitis is a water fern so must be removed entirely from the rockwool and tied to a surface, if you bury the roots of any fern it will rot.
Tied up the rest of the branches with moss, added the bolbitis, and added ferns I had grown out previously in this tank, the initial planting was now done and this was the backbone of the scape I would now work with. The water was fresh so I added fertiliser and cranked up the CO2.
So this is how this aquascape looks today, I added more hardscape (rocks) and tweaked the positioning of the branches around a bit better, I now have to decide on the final planting of the foreground which will probably be Glossostigma (glosso), plants for the background I have not yet decided on, I may add some Vallis type plant to branch over the arrangement so far from the background or I may add some Ludwigia arcuata which would do the same thing more or less, but this would add a red accent which could look ok as well, I may also remove all the rocks not sure how they are fitting in, it may look better just a green seamless carpet not broken by the rock when the final plants all grow in.
Anyway thats it, I'd say about 5 weeks and this aquascape will be done.
I will post another update in a couple of weeks for this tank when I add some more elements, the other smaller tank from the show will be broken down this week to try a different aquascape, exactly what, I haven't yet fully decided on, so I will work on that tank now that this tank is more or less up and running.
Thats it folks thanks for lookin at the weeds in my tank, hope you got some ideas here for your own setup
Peter
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- Sean (Fr. Jack)
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That would be a ecumenical matter!!!
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I dont have any fish for this tank
The fish go in at the end to suit the final layout, will the layout be all green or will there be red in it, these sort of things need to be decided first of all and then you add the fish to suit. Thats the theory anyway, in reality I dont have enough tanks to stock a lot of fish but im working on that, usually you add a single species only.
Thats the idea anyway, in reality its probably better to not add fish until you are finished anyway, doing these sort of tanks with fish in them is stressful for the fish, you need to do a lot of moving things around until you are happy with the layout, I have done tanks before with fish in them and its better not to do it like that, better to remove them if you can, probably fairer on the fish this way.
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- Seany (Sean Phelan)
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Congrats. New to this forum and just catching up on earlier stuff. I just wanted to know, What heating do you use i.e. and undergravel heater or the ordinary glass type in the main aquarium.
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Seany
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Hi Zig,
Congrats. New to this forum and just catching up on earlier stuff. I just wanted to know, What heating do you use i.e. and under gravel heater or the ordinary glass type in the main aquarium.
Kind regards
Seany
Hi Seany welcome aboard and thankyou.
Seany I just use an ordinary heater, undergravel heaters are not necessary at all in a planted setup, nobody really uses these any longer, the makers cannot back up the claims that they have any benefit to plant growth. Tropica (biggest aquatic plant nursery in Europe) did extensive tests with substrate heaters some years back and found they made no difference at all, and I guess if they did they would probably use them.
Other notable scientific based planted aquarists have also done extensive tests and found no difference either.
Interestingly Peter Bradly a writer for PFK magazine on aquatic plants is about to set up an experiment to try and disprove Tropica et al that they really are beneficial to plant growth, he is convinced that they are. I would say he is on a hiding to nothing with that one myself but it should be interesting anyway, he will set up a blog in the next couple of weeks on the PFK website. Personally I would say the only thing he will achieve is to prolong the myth further.
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- Seany (Sean Phelan)
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I have Amano's 3 amazing books, but never had the confidence to have a go myself. Having seen your amazing works of art has inspired me to have a go. Well done once again.
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Seany
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- apistodiscus (apistodiscus)
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first of all congrats to winning the PFK competition.
I have a couple of questions regarding the use of driftwood:
-any idea what species of tree the driftwood came from?
-do you ever get a bacterial bloom when using driftwood?
-How long does it last before it starts rotting (if at all)?
-What do you use to tie down the moss and fern? Fishing gut, bait elastic...?
I have plenty of bogwood available to me but you just can't get the same effect with it.
Cheers
Holger
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Thanks Holger
Holger I dont know what type of tree it came from, Im not good on trees tbh, I found it beside a lake out in the countryside, it wasn't pine anyway thats the only wood I probably would not use, it would definitely break down fast. The wood was totally dried out when I found it.
In the past I have also used driftwood from beaches, I just boiled it first of all and never had a problem. I have never had a bacterial bloom using driftwood/bogwood, sometimes you can get a type of growth from them for a few weeks after putting them in the tank but boiling them before hand solves that issue as well.
Bogwood can be hard to use effectvely but not impossible, one of my best layouts was done with bogwood also this years ADA winner used bogwood so not impossible at all, try using cable ties and tie the pieces together and then use moss to hide the joins/cables etc and that way you can get different shapes.
I just use cotton (synthetic?) thread to tie the moss, it attaches by itself after a month or so but I dont bother to remove the thread there is no need, when the moss gets to long just give it a haircut with a scissors and it grows back exactly the same.
But tbh getting good hardscape materials is quite difficult, its half the battle really, Im always on the lookout for good material rocks/wood etc finding stuff for free is always good but bloody difficult most of the time.
In the USA they have a wood called manzanita wood which grows in the deserts over there so thats what most of those guys use, in Asia they use mangrove roots which are freely available in all the lfs over there, these are pretty cool probably the best, in Europe basically we struggle, bogwood is standard fare in nearly all the lfs over here as you already know so we just gotta be more inventive, keep your eyes peeled would be my best advice gotta be lots of good spots in west Cork for potiential aquascaping material.
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- apistodiscus (apistodiscus)
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Thanks for the detailed reply.
BTW, Cedar is toxic so that is out as well. Just in case somebody comes across it. Plenty of it in the bogs in West Cork.
I can get plenty of bog oak. No problem during the summer when the turf is cut. Heaps of it beside any cutting site. A lot of people burn it. If they only knew that they are putting a fortune up their chimneys
If you are ever heading down Cork direction during the summer, give me a week's notice and I'll get you plenty. Bog oak tends to be thicker than the driftwood you have been using. I just like to set up a central point in my discus tank which some wood and grow javafern and moss on it. Since discus are not exactly cheap, I don't want to risk polluting the water. Will try driftwood when I get back from my holidays in November. Want to keep an eye on it, just in case. Did you ever think of coating the driftwood in epoxy?
Holger
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Might just take you up on that offer of the bog oak one of these days Holger, maybe next summer, good offer;)
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- apistodiscus (apistodiscus)
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peat cutting usually starts in late May/early June depending on the weather. Remind me closer to the date.
Is there are big market amongst aqua sculptures for bog? After last months article in PFK stating that real Irish bog oak is as rare as hen's teeth and that anybody with a supply should take out a full page add, I am beginning to wonder if I should start to sell the stuff.
BTW, collected some nice driftwood down by the river last night. Dryed it completely in the oven. Don't think any bacteria and fungi should have survived this. Will start boiling it tonight. How long do you boil the stuff? Just as long as it takes to get rid of the wood buoyancy or longer?
Holger
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