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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

brackish water and live stock

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06 Jun 2013 14:49 #1 by hammie (Neil Hammerton)
What salinity would be best for brackish water? I know in reality its variable due to tides etc but I am looking for a figure to keep a tank at!!!
Also should I drip in the live stock same way ya would with marine? Or acclimate like tropical live stock?
What water tests are needed? Same as tropical or same as marine?
Any good guides???
Thanks lads

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06 Jun 2013 16:20 #2 by blade (Michael G)
Hi , i have a small brackish setup with Bumble bee gobies in it , i set to 0.09 and they seem fine , marine is 0.24 i think , i used drip method myself slowly bringing salt level up , red sea salt ,i use a koi med probe measures salt % in water , very accurate

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06 Jun 2013 19:10 #3 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
"Brackish" is quite flexible definition as there are fish called "brackish fish" and there are fish that live in brackish water.

Different fish that live in brackish water would prefer different conditions to each others.

Ideally, you need to make sure that other conditions required by a specific fish are met as well. eg if a fish that lives in brackish water does not like acidic conditions, then make sure that you don't get a swing towards acidic conditions; if as brackish water fish likes acidic conditions, then give it acidic conditions.

A relative density of 1.005 will do as a starting point, but some so called "brackish" will not do well in that for too long.

They do need to be acclimatised properly (or even more carefully) than any other type of water; some species have unique ammonia detoxification systems but that does not mean you can rely on that for survival: in some cases, brackish could be considered to be more tricky than any other category as it is so fuzzy and many of the fish are not simply "tolerant" but are actually specialists wrt water conditions.

ian

Irish Tropical Fish Society (ITFS) Member.

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06 Jun 2013 20:27 #4 by hammie (Neil Hammerton)
Thanks gents

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21 Jun 2013 08:51 #5 by hammie (Neil Hammerton)
Anyone have any info on Scats? (Or maybe its spelt "skats")
Or even rope fish?
Cant find any decent info on either of them!

Looks like im going to setup a tank when I move house with brackish water for definite!!!
A few kilos of ocean rock for hiding places, just not fully decided on what to keep in it!!!

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21 Jun 2013 09:12 #6 by Homer (Kevin)

The Glass is always greener on the other side.


It's NOT "Chee lick", NOT "Chee Chee Licks"!!! Cichlids is pronounced as "Sick Lids"!!!!!

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21 Jun 2013 09:14 #7 by Homer (Kevin)

The Glass is always greener on the other side.


It's NOT "Chee lick", NOT "Chee Chee Licks"!!! Cichlids is pronounced as "Sick Lids"!!!!!

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21 Jun 2013 09:16 #8 by hammie (Neil Hammerton)
Homer your a legend
Thanks Pal

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30 Jun 2013 11:43 #9 by igmillichip (ian millichip)

Anyone have any info on Scats? (Or maybe its spelt "skats")
Or even rope fish?
Cant find any decent info on either of them!

Looks like im going to setup a tank when I move house with brackish water for definite!!!
A few kilos of ocean rock for hiding places, just not fully decided on what to keep in it!!!


Homer's link didn't tell you that the name Scatophagus means "shit eater". :)

There are a few nice species of the "Classic" brackish fsh around in LFSs at the present: red scats, serbae monos, and archer fish. Prices are quite good. The size of the Red Scats I saw yesterday are just right (not too small not too big).

ian

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30 Jun 2013 16:16 #10 by hammie (Neil Hammerton)
At the moment what im thinking is possibly 2-3 scats, 2-3 monos and maybe a couple of figure 8 puffers
In a 190 litre trigon with a few kilos of ocean rock and a minimum of 1000lph filtration and maybe a power head to keep the water moving a bit more (ill see if ifs needed when its all setup)
Im looking into the possibility of building a sump for the trigon to make it all more efficient when it eventually (in all likelyhood) turns into a full marine setup down the line a bit

The sump system seems simple enough to setup, I only have 2 concerns....... 1.... drilling a perfectly good tank base
2....... figuring out a good size sump and getting it to fit in the available space under within the corner unit cabnite

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