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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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17 Jan 2011 19:07 #1 by funkychic (trish coughlan)
HI my marine tank has a predaoter . my fish and inverts and seahorse have been attacked and killed . i have found them all dead in same spot at the back of tank , i cant found what it is . does anyone havve any advice as to what it is and how to get it out .
thanks trish :(

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17 Jan 2011 19:09 #2 by sheag35 (Seamus Gillespie)
are you sure its a predator and not water quality, do a check on your water perameters and post them up here

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17 Jan 2011 20:08 - 17 Jan 2011 20:09 #3 by funkychic (trish coughlan)
i am sure water is ok doing a water change in morning . this going on for a few months now there is something in there .
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17 Jan 2011 20:29 #4 by ronnie351 (Ronnie Burke)
Hi.
Is there any marks at all on the fish,
Do you have a lot of live Rock,

Ronnie

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17 Jan 2011 20:35 #5 by Declan g (Declan glynn)
google eucanid worm
could be your problem
very hard to see during the day
cheers
Declan

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17 Jan 2011 20:40 #6 by funkychic (trish coughlan)
yep this is like a small mark on them one of the big snails died and i put it on the sand in the front of tanl and in morning it was at the back were all the others were

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17 Jan 2011 20:41 #7 by funkychic (trish coughlan)
hi declan did that all ready not sure its that , how will i found out

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17 Jan 2011 20:42 #8 by Viperbot (Jason Hughes)
If your water isnt to blame and your tank is free of disease and you dont see the attacker, its possible you have a mantis shrimp or other predatory invert in the system. Large predatory inverts can hide anywhere and can decimate fish and other inverts in a short time. Did the corpses show signs of being attacked? You will quickly know due to the victim being pretty much torn apart. Have you noticed any weird sounds coming from the tank? Clicking or tapping noises may indicate the presence of a mantis shrimp or similar critter. Large predatory worms or juvie eels can hide in the smallest of holes in live rock and will take fish and inverts. You will need to put some time into observing the system, especially at night. Use a red light to peer into the tank at night and pay particular attention to the area where you found the dead stock, whatever it is has probably made its lair near that spot.

Jay

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17 Jan 2011 20:51 #9 by funkychic (trish coughlan)
thanks jay . we have been tacking turns at night to try and catch it . there is no nose i think . i thought i saw a long skinny worm come out of the rock been there snice the start o set up over a year ago . thing is my stone crab was found dead right beside its den . dont know if i should get new rock ??

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17 Jan 2011 20:53 - 17 Jan 2011 20:58 #10 by ronnie351 (Ronnie Burke)
hi,

You could place a fish trap in your tank now with some food inside,
predator must be getting hungry now if not any food left, if it can kill fish, it will go for the food in the trap, a trap is not too expensive, or maybe yur LFS could lend you one,
they do work.

Ronnie.
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17 Jan 2011 20:58 #11 by funkychic (trish coughlan)
good idea ronnie , there is two fish left all this time clown and cardil ,and there fine put they do stay around front of tank .

thank u all for help . missed u all great to be back
trish :)

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17 Jan 2011 21:04 - 17 Jan 2011 21:05 #12 by Viperbot (Jason Hughes)
Ok, its possible you have a Eunicid worm in there. These critters are a bit of a menace and large ones will actively hunt your fish at night. If you discover what piece of live rock it is living in then you could try removing the rock and sterillizing it. However, if its a big worm, you could try baiting it using silversides or some other meaty food. Use rubber gloves or tongs before you touch the worm as there are many species and they include fireworms and bristleworms which can sting on contact. Hope this helps.

Jay

Location: Finglas, North Dublin.

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17 Jan 2011 21:06 #13 by ronnie351 (Ronnie Burke)
Hi,
just quick idea , you could also just take out live rock in area you think it is, and leave on a sheet to partly dry off to see if it will come out, as it would be a lot bigger now, dont know if yur live rock is yur filter also, so you could spray it with saltwater to keep it wet, on the outside.

hope this helps.

Ronnie

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17 Jan 2011 21:11 #14 by funkychic (trish coughlan)
they can sting that makes sence . think i will get rock out of tank . ta :)

anyone selling any rock ??????



trish

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17 Jan 2011 21:12 #15 by funkychic (trish coughlan)
thanks i tryed that before . think i will get rock out and in the bin ??

trish

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17 Jan 2011 21:17 #16 by stretnik (stretnik)
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I say this with some authority, a quick dip in fresh water will have all hidden creatures bolting for the Door, it doesn't need to be long, a quick in and out will have the required effect, A short while ago I was given live rock that some half wit decided to wash out under a COLD Tap, it was a short event and I found all sorts of nasties, Bristleworms etc on the bottom of the Bucket. Jay aka Viperbot can attest to this.

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17 Jan 2011 21:18 #17 by Viperbot (Jason Hughes)
You wont need to bin it. Just sterillize it and return it to your display. It will become "live" again over time.

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17 Jan 2011 21:20 #18 by funkychic (trish coughlan)
dont doubt you cheers

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17 Jan 2011 21:25 - 17 Jan 2011 21:26 #19 by Viperbot (Jason Hughes)

I say this with some authority, a quick dip in fresh water will have all hidden creatures bolting for the Door, it doesn't need to be long, a quick in and out will have the required effect, A short while ago I was given live rock that some half wit decided to wash out under a COLD Tap, it was a short event and I found all sorts of nasties, Bristleworms etc on the bottom of the Bucket. Jay aka Viperbot can attest to this.

Kev.

Here's a link if you doubt me. www.thereeftank.com/forums/f6/live-rock-...rrrrrrrrr-33001.html



Very true. If you are worried just sterillize the rock under freashwater. Better still, use hot freshwater. If you have enough live rock in your system then sterillizing one piece wont do any harm given your system is a year old. If you are worried about having more than one of these critters in the tank then you could lower the specific gravity to 1.009 for a week or so. Note that this will kill all inverts within your tank so if you have corals, nems, or cleaner crews then you will have to get them a temp home before you do this. I recently just used this approach to deal with a bad outbreak of ich in my own system and after a few days my aquarium looked like 400 liters of worm soup.

Jay

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17 Jan 2011 21:28 #20 by funkychic (trish coughlan)
oh god worm soup aggggggghhhhhh :)

cheers trish

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19 Jan 2011 19:53 #21 by siocla (Siobhan Cleare)
Hi Trish,
Sounds like a eunicid or bobbit worm if you look them up they are very hard to catch, I had the same problem and you have to find the lair and make sure you get every bit of him out as they can break off their end segment and just grow again! plus they can live in your tank for years without being spotted, fresh water wont flush him out I tried that, you can try soda water but I just dumped the whole rock as I just didnt want to take the risk of any bit of him being left behind... they can reach lengths of 20ft or more!!!!
good luck
Siobhan

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20 Jan 2011 11:44 #22 by Pat_K (Patrick King)
I've heard that if you dunk the rock in a high salinity bucket of water any hitchhikers like what you're dealing with will pop out and looking for better water. This has the benefit of not killing the good bacteria on the live rock. I've never done it myself but heard a few people found it successful.

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25 Jan 2011 00:37 #23 by funkychic (trish coughlan)
thank u all for advice , i took rock out and am waiting to see how the tank goes .
trish :)

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25 Jan 2011 08:36 #24 by Viperbot (Jason Hughes)
Cool, let us know how you get on.

Jay

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25 Jan 2011 22:47 #25 by funkychic (trish coughlan)
i will jay .

:):):):)

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10 Dec 2011 12:50 - 10 Dec 2011 12:53 #26 by savas (Tomas)
hi
water parameters?????
More details about your tank????
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10 Dec 2011 13:31 #27 by savas (Tomas)
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :crazy:

hi
water parameters?????
More details about your tank????


sevas, it's nice that you want to help, but it seems to me that for some eleven months too late ;)

cheers

chris

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10 Dec 2011 13:35 #28 by savas (Tomas)
Better late than never ;)

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11 Dec 2011 18:30 #29 by paulcavan (Paul Gileoold)
What happened in the end

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