Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)
Hi,
John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.
I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.
With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.
I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.
If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.
I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.
I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.
Thank you
Darragh Sherwin
Running costs
- LemonJelly (Johnny Cowley)
-
Topic Author
- Offline
- Platinum Member
-
- Posts: 1692
- Thank you received: 268
"The only thing that burns in Hell is the part of you that won't let go of your life; your memories, your attachments. They burn them all away. But they're not punishing you.They're freeing your soul."
Please Log in to join the conversation.
- igmillichip (ian millichip)
-
- Offline
- Moderator
-
- Posts: 3366
- Thank you received: 536
You would normally use the wattage quoted on the product (assuming it is true) and the number of hours it is on to do a ball-park calculation.
But, in reality the unit (especially a heater) may not be using the product wattage continuously (so that would be a value less than theoretically calculated).
On the other hand, poor or dodgy wiring or a faulty unit may be using more than stated (so that would put a real value greater than the theoretical).
The hours a thermostatically controlled heater will be on depends on the size of the tank, the dimensions of the tank (note.....that is not the same as the size of the tank), the insulation, ambient room temperature, type of water, rocks etc etc, and the efficiency of the heater (and the appropriate fitting of heater wattage to tank) and water circulation.
So.....the easy theory without getting the unit tested (assuming everything is perfect):
take the wattage (not the kilowatt, but the wattage)....
.....divide that number by 1000 (so, if you have 100 watts, then the answer will be 0.1; if the unit is 2kilowatts, then that is 2000 watts, so divided by 1000 give 2)....
multiply that number by the cost per Unit electricty (from your electric bill).
That will give you the cost per hour that the unit is working at that wattage.
For a reasonable sized tank in a living room with the basic equipment, it doesn't actually work out to cost much to run at all.
If you have 40 tanks.....then things can start to get noticeable.
If you are running mercury vapour lamps on 40 tanks....then you will certainly start to notice a massive difference

ian
Irish Tropical Fish Society (ITFS) Member.
Please Log in to join the conversation.
- Q_Comets (Declan Chambers)
- Offline
- Platinum Member
-
- Posts: 1026
- Thank you received: 156
And maybe the gardai taking an interest in your electric bill. No no officer it is not that kind of grow house

As for running cost the heaters are the tricky bit as you know near enough for lights and filters assuming the ratings given are correct but how do you know how long your heater is actually running.
Please Log in to join the conversation.
- igmillichip (ian millichip)
-
- Offline
- Moderator
-
- Posts: 3366
- Thank you received: 536

On the number of hours a heater is on......there are too many variables. So you'd just have to guess. If you assume 24hrs then that will give you the upper limit. If they are actually on for 24hrs, then something is seriously wrong with the choice of heaters for the tank.
ian
Irish Tropical Fish Society (ITFS) Member.
Please Log in to join the conversation.
- LemonJelly (Johnny Cowley)
-
Topic Author
- Offline
- Platinum Member
-
- Posts: 1692
- Thank you received: 268
"The only thing that burns in Hell is the part of you that won't let go of your life; your memories, your attachments. They burn them all away. But they're not punishing you.They're freeing your soul."
Please Log in to join the conversation.
- LemonJelly (Johnny Cowley)
-
Topic Author
- Offline
- Platinum Member
-
- Posts: 1692
- Thank you received: 268

now if i could only get free fish...
"The only thing that burns in Hell is the part of you that won't let go of your life; your memories, your attachments. They burn them all away. But they're not punishing you.They're freeing your soul."
Please Log in to join the conversation.
- igmillichip (ian millichip)
-
- Offline
- Moderator
-
- Posts: 3366
- Thank you received: 536
ian
Irish Tropical Fish Society (ITFS) Member.
Please Log in to join the conversation.
- paulv (paul vickers)
-
- Offline
- Platinum Member
-
- Posts: 1022
- Thank you received: 195
Please Log in to join the conversation.