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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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19 Sep 2013 16:18 #1 by irish-zx10r (James feenan)
what is the rule with heaters is it 1w per ltr just wondering is two 200w heaters good enough to run a 350L tank at 26c to 28c deg c

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19 Sep 2013 16:49 #2 by CrustyCrab (Peter Biddulph)
Depends on the Brand of heater, 1 x Eheim 200w will do up to 400L
But 2 x 200w will heat your 350L no worries there.

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19 Sep 2013 17:23 #3 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
Depends on ambient temperature, insulation and the dimensions of the tank (and the volume comes in after them 3 things).

Ian

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19 Sep 2013 19:26 #4 by irish-zx10r (James feenan)
I have a Interpet 200w heater and a Juwel internal filter system 200W heater,
the juwel heater out of the corner box so i just used it.
The temp seems to be holding at 25 Deg c since this morning.
both are set for 28 deg c and few times i looked today they were both working
but the heater light was off. should i take a room tempature for morning i know the night the side wall gets hot because of the fire in the sitting room so the temp should be a little higher.

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19 Sep 2013 20:43 #5 by Gonefishy (Brian oneill)
2x200w will do the trick no worries. That's exactly what I have in my 380l....

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19 Sep 2013 20:48 #6 by irish-zx10r (James feenan)

2x200w will do the trick no worries. That's exactly what I have in my 380l....


thats good to here i think its the first time i had to heat water from 12 deg c up to 28c
not looking forward to the next esb bill what fish are u keeping in the 380L

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19 Sep 2013 21:29 - 19 Sep 2013 21:30 #7 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
I remember trying to figure this one out myself not to long back for 2 x 300 watt heaters and the following was what was what someone came up with. The heaters will switch on and off as you can expect.
But assuming its on for half the day, ie 12 hours x 31 days in the month = 372 hours a month.
Your usage is 200w for 12hrs x 31 days (average) = 372 hours per month. 0.20kW x 372hrs = 74.4kWh. So 74.4kWh x 17cent = €12.65 a month per 200w heater. Therefore 25.30 per month for the two heaters.

So for 2x200W heaters, it should cost you about €50.60 ever 2 months ie the billing period. I could be totally wrong but thats my estimate! Its gotta be worth it though right!
Ive changed my electrictiy provider recently, Ive also done the same with my gas provider.
The best option is to go to different providers for gas and electricity, not the same.
Bonkers.ie is brill for trying to figure out the best rates.

Now the filter..thats a different matter again but at least its not spitting out the same type of bill that the lights and the heater would who are using more electricity.

Gavin
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19 Sep 2013 21:48 #8 by irish-zx10r (James feenan)

I remember trying to figure this one out myself not to long back for 2 x 300 watt heaters and the following was what was what someone came up with. The heaters will switch on and off as you can expect.
But assuming its on for half the day, ie 12 hours x 31 days in the month = 372 hours a month.
Your usage is 200w for 12hrs x 31 days (average) = 372 hours per month. 0.20kW x 372hrs = 74.4kWh. So 74.4kWh x 17cent = €12.65 a month per 200w heater. Therefore 25.30 per month for the two heaters.

So for 2x200W heaters, it should cost you about €50.60 ever 2 months ie the billing period. I could be totally wrong but thats my estimate! Its gotta be worth it though right!
Ive changed my electrictiy provider recently, Ive also done the same with my gas provider.
The best option is to go to different providers for gas and electricity, not the same.
Bonkers.ie is brill for trying to figure out the best rates.

Now the filter..thats a different matter again but at least its not spitting out the same type of bill that the lights and the heater would who are using more electricity.

Gavin
Gavin


thanks for the info i think i better start selling some fish and tanks or maybe i could start drinking cheaper beer and ask the girlfriend to cut back on the cigarette

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20 Sep 2013 08:41 #9 by CrustyCrab (Peter Biddulph)
By choosing brands that are more cost effective you can save money.
1 x 200w Eheim/MP heater will heat a 350 L aquarium.
Using the figures kindly worked out by Fishowner, (that's for that)
That's about €150 saving in a year. every year!
Granted there is the cost of the Heater to be taken from that, but that's about €30
Same with Filters etc, Check the wattage used. Spending that €50 extra could bring you a €60 saving every year.

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20 Sep 2013 09:43 #10 by LemonJelly (Johnny Cowley)

By choosing brands that are more cost effective you can save money.
1 x 200w Eheim/MP heater will heat a 350 L aquarium.
Using the figures kindly worked out by Fishowner, (that's for that)
That's about €150 saving in a year. every year!
Granted there is the cost of the Heater to be taken from that, but that's about €30
Same with Filters etc, Check the wattage used. Spending that €50 extra could bring you a €60 saving every year.


That sound suspiciously like a Woman's Saving!

"I bought these lovely shoes! They were €200 but the shop had them reduced to €175. Such a bargain!"
"You know you could have just not bought them and you would have saved all the money."
"Why do you hate me?"

"The only thing that burns in Hell is the part of you that won't let go of your life; your memories, your attachments. They burn them all away. But they're not punishing you.They're freeing your soul."

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20 Sep 2013 09:47 - 20 Sep 2013 10:05 #11 by CrustyCrab (Peter Biddulph)
It's from 28 years of listening to "how much will that new tank cost" , sorry I meant marriage
But as you know "Wifey" economic reasoning is different in Shoe Shops, fitted Kitchen showrooms, boutiques etc.

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