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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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30 Sep 2013 14:31 #1 by Wackoo (Niall)
Hi guys, can anyone recommend a HOB filter for a thirty litre planted tank tank with endlers and shrimp in it? Something reliable and relatively quiet... Any experiences or advice would be great thanks :-D

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30 Sep 2013 15:33 #2 by JohnH (John)
Moved from 'Introductions' to this category.
John

Location:
N. Tipp

We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl - year after year.


ITFS member.



It's a long way to Tipperary.

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30 Sep 2013 16:31 #3 by Wackoo (Niall)
Whoops! Sorry! Thanks John :-)

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30 Sep 2013 17:23 #4 by davey_c (dave clarke)
Sorry I've no experiences with HOB filters but I did see some for sale in seahorse hlast time I was in there. Might be worth a call.

Below tank is for sale

my plywood tank build.

www.irishfishkeepers.com/index.php/forum...k-build-diary#137768

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30 Sep 2013 20:56 #5 by LemonJelly (Johnny Cowley)
are you going to run CO2 with the tank? HOB filters aren't recommended if you're doing that

"The only thing that burns in Hell is the part of you that won't let go of your life; your memories, your attachments. They burn them all away. But they're not punishing you.They're freeing your soul."

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30 Sep 2013 21:06 #6 by Wackoo (Niall)
No there's no co2, just a low tech planted tank :-)

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01 Oct 2013 09:27 #7 by CrustyCrab (Peter Biddulph)
Eheim and Aquael both make good HOBs. Some PRC copies knocking around too, but
they can be more noisey
Not so popular over this side of the atlantic, but the Yanks seem to love them.

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01 Oct 2013 10:57 #8 by LemonJelly (Johnny Cowley)

Eheim and Aquael both make good HOBs. Some PRC copies knocking around too, but
they can be more noisey
Not so popular over this side of the atlantic, but the Yanks seem to love them.


That always mystified me! They seem to be their filter of choice for any small tank. It's only one of many differences in attitude to fishkeeping though

"The only thing that burns in Hell is the part of you that won't let go of your life; your memories, your attachments. They burn them all away. But they're not punishing you.They're freeing your soul."

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01 Oct 2013 11:12 #9 by Wackoo (Niall)
They seem easier to maintain, take up less internal space and quieter hopelully :-)

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01 Oct 2013 11:16 #10 by CrustyCrab (Peter Biddulph)
Very true, HOBs are the filter of choice in the USA,and
becoming more popular in Europe too.
In some respects they are like a mini external, and I often wondered why
they were never so popular over here.

And there is a huge difference in regards to many aspects of fishkeeping.
For example, seeing vats of "feeder fish" in many shops in the US, always made me uneasy.

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01 Oct 2013 11:48 #11 by LemonJelly (Johnny Cowley)

Very true, HOBs are the filter of choice in the USA,and
becoming more popular in Europe too.
In some respects they are like a mini external, and I often wondered why
they were never so popular over here.

And there is a huge difference in regards to many aspects of fishkeeping.
For example, seeing vats of "feeder fish" in many shops in the US, always made me uneasy.


I wonder does part of the difference in attitude come from their hunting culture ie animals are for pets and for eating and also for fun. If you shoot animals for fun it's hard to feel sorry about "lesser" animals suffering. I'm not saying Americans are cruel, that'd be nonsense. But I'd put money on it that most of the ones who see no problem putting a Betta in an old gallon whiskey bottle also probably support hunting or the right to hunt

"The only thing that burns in Hell is the part of you that won't let go of your life; your memories, your attachments. They burn them all away. But they're not punishing you.They're freeing your soul."

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01 Oct 2013 12:15 #12 by CrustyCrab (Peter Biddulph)

Very true, HOBs are the filter of choice in the USA,and
becoming more popular in Europe too.
In some respects they are like a mini external, and I often wondered why
they were never so popular over here.

And there is a huge difference in regards to many aspects of fishkeeping.
For example, seeing vats of "feeder fish" in many shops in the US, always made me uneasy.


I wonder does part of the difference in attitude come from their hunting culture ie animals are for pets and for eating and also for fun. If you shoot animals for fun it's hard to feel sorry about "lesser" animals suffering. I'm not saying Americans are cruel, that'd be nonsense. But I'd put money on it that most of the ones who see no problem putting a Betta in an old gallon whiskey bottle also probably support hunting or the right to hunt


or their right to bear or carry arms in public..... "Guns don't kill, People do" and all that
But yes, and of course, it is not all Americans who are like that

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01 Oct 2013 12:31 #13 by LemonJelly (Johnny Cowley)

Very true, HOBs are the filter of choice in the USA,and
becoming more popular in Europe too.
In some respects they are like a mini external, and I often wondered why
they were never so popular over here.

And there is a huge difference in regards to many aspects of fishkeeping.
For example, seeing vats of "feeder fish" in many shops in the US, always made me uneasy.


I wonder does part of the difference in attitude come from their hunting culture ie animals are for pets and for eating and also for fun. If you shoot animals for fun it's hard to feel sorry about "lesser" animals suffering. I'm not saying Americans are cruel, that'd be nonsense. But I'd put money on it that most of the ones who see no problem putting a Betta in an old gallon whiskey bottle also probably support hunting or the right to hunt


or their right to bear or carry arms in public..... "Guns don't kill, People do" and all that
But yes, and of course, it is not all Americans who are like that


As Robin Williams put it "You have the right to bear arms and the right to arm bears, whatever the hell you want!"

The only thing I don't understand is the reluctance to deny insane people the right to guns... but I fear we are digressing :lol:

"The only thing that burns in Hell is the part of you that won't let go of your life; your memories, your attachments. They burn them all away. But they're not punishing you.They're freeing your soul."

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01 Oct 2013 13:09 #14 by Homer (Kevin)
I always found HOB Filters to be wonderfully efficient at doing the Job.

H.

The Glass is always greener on the other side.


It's NOT "Chee lick", NOT "Chee Chee Licks"!!! Cichlids is pronounced as "Sick Lids"!!!!!

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01 Oct 2013 13:36 #15 by CrustyCrab (Peter Biddulph)
The Eheim Aquaboss was a great HOB filter, the only mod I did was to the increase the lenght of the intake pipe.

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01 Oct 2013 20:36 #16 by Wackoo (Niall)
Thanks lads I've had a look at all of those! :-) anyone know of anywhere stocking any?

Cheers

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01 Oct 2013 23:40 #17 by Bullfrog (DECLAN MAC GABHANN)
Phi, I have three eheim libertys and you should be able to order them through any LFS that is supplied by J & K Aquatics. I find them ok but I have had the odd leak if the sponges get clogged.

I tend to place a small sponge around the intake as it stops minnow fry from getting sucked. I have them running in 60l tanks

Dec

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02 Oct 2013 15:57 #18 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
The ones that fluval do with the fluval edge are outstanding.If you can get your hands on one of those Id recommend them very highly, they are quite and very reliable.

Gavin

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04 Oct 2013 02:23 #19 by newbejkjimk (damien kelly)
Hi wackoo i have had eheim liberty hob filter and was very good and has adjustable flow rate which is handy.
jim

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04 Oct 2013 05:39 #20 by Homer (Kevin)

The ones that fluval do with the fluval edge are outstanding.If you can get your hands on one of those Id recommend them very highly, they are quite and very reliable.

Gavin


+1

H.

The Glass is always greener on the other side.


It's NOT "Chee lick", NOT "Chee Chee Licks"!!! Cichlids is pronounced as "Sick Lids"!!!!!

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04 Oct 2013 08:18 #21 by Wackoo (Niall)
Everything I've read about them seems very positive! :-)

Cheers lads

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09 Mar 2014 08:26 #22 by Miamiheat (Stephane Lemaire)
reviving and old thread. Can someone tell me where i could source some Fluval C2 or C3 HOB filters?
I currently have 3 tanks on a big ledge. The are hooked to external canisters that are basically in plain sight and its very ugly in my living room so i wanted to replace them by HOB's

Thanks

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09 Mar 2014 09:40 #23 by anglecichlid (ciaran hogan)
www.adverts.ie/3727750
I have one of these in my Cory tank,
Find it works very well.

Anyone with a aquarium can keep fish,
But it takes real skill to be a fish keeper,


And it's spongeBob,
SpongeBob lives in a pineapple under the sea
BLANCHARDSTOWN

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