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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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23 May 2010 19:21 - 23 May 2010 19:23 #1 by yellow (yellow)
Hi guys

Has anyone heard anything about the new G series filters,

www.fluval-g.com/index_e.php

Any opinions?

Frank
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23 May 2010 19:50 #2 by KenS (Ken Simpson)
From what I've read on other forums the general concensus is that they are overpriced and have features that you don't need. The media design means that you are forced to use Fluval's replacement media which isn't cheap either.

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Ken.

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23 May 2010 21:10 #3 by Tetra (Tetra)
Replied by Tetra (Tetra) on topic Re:Fluval G series
Practical fish keeping did a review of these filters gave it quite a good one too but they did say it was very expensive.

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23 May 2010 22:16 #4 by wolfsburg (wolfsburg)
Replied by wolfsburg (wolfsburg) on topic Re:Fluval G series
In fairness PFK have never slated any item, they don't want to annoy anyone especially not Hagen who give a fair wedge to PFK for advertising and sponsorship.
I think it is a lovely looking filter but a complete waste of 450ish euro. The media thing is typical for the way Hagen have gone in recent years... put awkward, elaborate consumables in and keep the end user wrapped around our little finger!

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23 May 2010 23:00 #5 by KenS (Ken Simpson)
A lot of the cost is due to the fact that they made it to look nice. It reminds me of an expensive coffee machine. Crazy for something that you stick in a cabinet under a tank and look at every few months.

Ask yourself it any of the additional functionality will actually benefit your fish...

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Ken.

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23 May 2010 23:09 #6 by CJackson (Frank Farrell)
I haven't used one, but the idea that you can leave the thing on and open it up to change/clean media is pretty sweet. The temp measurement built in is nice too, as are the alarms for maintenance. It seems you can put whatever media you want in the cylinders so it would be ideal for a salty set up if you can actually use it for phosphate removal, etc.

They are horribly expensive, but I hear that is because of the R&D costs involved in developing it. That's all very well, but when it comes down to the job it actually does you can buy an external filter that will do the same job for a quarter of the cost. Verdict: Probably very good, but a luxury, not a necessity.

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09 Jun 2010 21:51 #7 by yellow (yellow)
Replied by yellow (yellow) on topic Re:Fluval G series
Thanks guys,I as trying to get peoples opinion before deciding to stock them or not at work. We are going to chance it and give it a go. Just to respond about being stuck using their media, I think you can put anything you want into the cartridges but will have to double check. I see them being used by marine fish only tanks.
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09 Jun 2010 22:17 #8 by Ma (mm mm)
Replied by Ma (mm mm) on topic Re:Fluval G series
True as with most filters you can just add anything, have 2227 which takes substrate, from Eheim of course, although I will say that the wet dry is very effective with that type of media. For freshie just constant flow, foam and bioballs are fine. All I have ever used tbh. Marine is another story, one I don't know:)

It's a gearhead filter, overly complicated and flashy with none too cost effective features. As for RnD costs, surely this is ongoing with many techs being researched by Hagen so this would not justify the cost of the filter for me we have paid for its RnD buying the 205-405 + and U sreies, FX5s ect. personally I don't mind turning off the filer to change media ect. Now a self cleaning filter I would be interested in.:)


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09 Jun 2010 23:38 #9 by KenS (Ken Simpson)
I'm not prepared to pay twice the price for a filter just because I can change the media without turning it off. Sounds dangerous.

Big deal that it also displays the temperature. Many of the digital temperature gauges on the market are wildly inaccurate. How do we know the one built into this filter is any better?

Overpriced gimmick if you ask me.

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Ken.

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10 Jun 2010 10:37 #10 by Acara (Dave Walters)
I would agree with the rest of the lads here.You can get very efficient,time proven filters,for a lot less money.I cant see how this thing would reduce the nitrates,etc,any more than an older model.

As for RnD costs,it reminds me of that over-rated(to me,completely BS)word used in the clothing industry,that is "designer",sure,even the cheapest,nastiest item(which often out last 'designer gear')had to be designed by someone,so how do we distinguish between a designer and a designer,just by price?A personal example,I use to wear socks from a large UK chain,started by a Russian Jew,about 15e for a pack of 5pr(not counting staff discount;) ),but then switched to some from a Nth Earl St shop,2.25e for 5pr,and they last many times longer.I believe the expensive ones were actually made in this country.

And be conscious(as Wolfsberg said) of any reviews you read,especially in PFK.Have a look at what they review,and the results of every 'readers poll',and the annual 'shop awards',they've ever run.I think you'll find that the only itemns and shops that ever feature are from companies that advertise in the mag.

always on the lookout for interesting corys.pm me if you know off any!

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