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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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14 Nov 2010 15:01 #1 by SpiderMonkey (Mark O'Neill)
Ok lads how many hours are you guys running your air stones for a day?
My one is on for around 15hours a day is that to much?


Mark

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14 Nov 2010 15:05 #2 by Gavin (Gavin)
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if you are using an airstone you should leave it on all the time.

dont make me come over there.

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14 Nov 2010 15:15 #3 by SpiderMonkey (Mark O'Neill)
Really gav someone was saying it might not be good for plants if left on for long ?

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14 Nov 2010 15:21 #4 by joey (joe watson)
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depending if you are injecting co2 or not, it is best to not use one, just have lots of movement at the surface for gaseous exchange with a powerhead or spray bar. if you inject co2 though alot of surface movement can cause too much co2 to be exchanged to the air and has very little effect on plants

Location: Portlaoise, Midlands

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14 Nov 2010 15:21 #5 by Gavin (Gavin)
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ah plants.yes.airstones are a bit of a no no if you have plants.affects the co2 so it does.do you really need to run one at all?maybe not.If you are not heavily stocked and do water changes I probably wouldn't bother.sorry for the confusion.

dont make me come over there.

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14 Nov 2010 15:24 #6 by Ma (mm mm)
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dickiedocker wrote:

Really gav someone was saying it might not be good for plants if left on for long ?




It can depend on the amount of air being pumped in to the stone. 400lph will drive more CO2 out than a 50lph pump obviously.

You can get a 20lph pump and attach it and that wouldn't be too much of a grief with your CO2, depending on stock levels too, use a timer to have it come on 20 mins of every half hour and stay on all night.



Mark

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14 Nov 2010 15:27 #7 by SpiderMonkey (Mark O'Neill)
I'm not using co2 and my plants always look bad and don't last even the hardy ones so it must be the bloody airstone!
I'll give the air a rest for a while cheers lads

Ps gav you sounded a bit like yoda in that reply :)


Mark

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14 Nov 2010 15:32 #8 by Gavin (Gavin)
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strong with the fishkeeping am I.Try easy carbo must you.

dont make me come over there.

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14 Nov 2010 15:36 #9 by SpiderMonkey (Mark O'Neill)

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14 Nov 2010 15:39 #10 by Gavin (Gavin)
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better it will work with no airstone.

I'm actually enjoying this yoda speak.

but i'm going to stop.i've been doing impressions and sean says they aren't good and he may kill me.

dont make me come over there.

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14 Nov 2010 15:43 #11 by SpiderMonkey (Mark O'Neill)
Lol Bahahahaha!! Why not keep up for the day gav people in the shop will love it:)

So will I just put it on at night?


Mark

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14 Nov 2010 15:44 #12 by Ma (mm mm)
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I had great results on a seriously heavily planted 300l with a constant eheim 100 24hours and easycarbo


No co2 and the plants aint gonna look good regardless even without an airstone, also temp and ph can also make your plants not last, if you got lots of plants then C02 will be competed for. Are you using T5s aswell? What plants have you got?



Mark

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14 Nov 2010 16:01 #13 by SpiderMonkey (Mark O'Neill)
The plants Mark are three Anubias and two big onion plants its a 155liter tank with Life-Glo and Power-Glo T5HO Bulbs dont know the PH.
The temp is 25.5

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14 Nov 2010 17:38 - 14 Nov 2010 17:39 #14 by joey (joe watson)
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dickiedocker, i started a planted tank and ran airlines to the tank, had awful algae trouble so started on the easycarbo and profito, removed the iarline and just have a filter spray bar breaking the water surface (not just ripples, properly spraying into the water) and haven't looked back. easycarbo acts a bit different to co2, you can still have surface movement and results are good. have the filter output near the surface to agitate the surface, you still need to keep some oxygenatioon up to keep the fish alive easy carbo is what it is, easy. no pH fluctuation just algae combat

also a little higher on the temp, around 27, will help. just bring it up slowly. you need to find the balance with easy carbo, fertiliser and light and when you do, results can be pretty suprising

Location: Portlaoise, Midlands
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14 Nov 2010 18:31 #15 by SpiderMonkey (Mark O'Neill)
Hi joey iv got a spraybar but its so weak doesn't seen to be doing much iv had it off for the last few weeks so I have the outlet pipe flowing in from around 3-4" above the water.
I'll put the temp up a bit and should I put the airstone on from say 12 at night till morning??

Thanks joey


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14 Nov 2010 20:36 #16 by joey (joe watson)
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really you would only need the airstone on at night if you are injecting co2 (oxygenate the water at night when the plants are not photosynthesising), i dont bother at all as i am using easy carbo and the surface movement, from bubbles popping at the surface or water flow creating ripples or slashes(not bubbles themselves), is enough to oxygenate the water and keep fish alive & not stagnate the surface. its up to you, easy carbo does not act like pure co2 gas so oxygenating the water will not make you lose co2. well, from what i have researched on the net anyway

Location: Portlaoise, Midlands

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15 Nov 2010 00:43 #17 by SpiderMonkey (Mark O'Neill)
Thanks for the info joey I learn something new every day :)


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15 Nov 2010 18:44 #18 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
Mines on a timer,on at about 8am and off at about 10pm...works for me.
Gavin

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15 Nov 2010 18:56 #19 by SpiderMonkey (Mark O'Neill)

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