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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

which filter would you buy???

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01 Jan 2011 10:46 #1 by jakepitbull (john)
jbl e1500
tetratec ex1200
fluval 405
they would be for a jewel trigon 190

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01 Jan 2011 11:04 #2 by ejgibbo (eric)
I find the tetratec ex1200 great , I use it on a 120 litre :)

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01 Jan 2011 11:50 #3 by JohnH (John)
We all have our preferences - for what it's worth mine (as stated at least once before...) would be an Eheim, although I hear good things about the JBL series of filters.
John

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We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl - year after year.


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01 Jan 2011 11:59 #4 by Puddlefish (Colin McCourt)
After spending eons in fishkeeping from a wee small lad to the present day I would always recommend an Eheim, not one of the new fang-dangled self-priming this and that models.
The good old "Classic" range are fantastic workhorses and give you years of service.
Its always going to boil down to monetary outlay these days and I respect that fact.
For me personally I wouldn't consider any other mfg. I'm happy with Eheim.
ATB
P

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01 Jan 2011 12:27 #5 by Frontosa (Tim kruger)
EHEIM.Have Fluval,Tetratec and Eheim.Like and trust Eheim the most.Still use my fathers Eheim classic which is well over 20 years old.Great filters.Regards,Tim

Midlands - in the heart of Ireland.

Keeping and breeding : Frontosa Blue Zaires , Synodontis Petricola , Tropheus Red Rainbow (Kasanga) , Tropheus Moliro . Regulary fry for sale.
Community tank with P.Kribensis and different livebearers.

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01 Jan 2011 12:36 #6 by joey (joe watson)
i have seen and heard tims old eheim, still silent and still performing. if i ever need an external then eheim claasic would be the one

Location: Portlaoise, Midlands

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01 Jan 2011 12:48 #7 by Katherine (Katarzyna Glebocka)
As JohnH and Puddlefish wrote Ehaim is considered to be the top one. Let's say a mercedes among filters - so you pay as for mercedes :) I am not very much devoted to any brands, but if I were to decide which one, I would:

1) check the engine (I wouldn't relay on sellers oppinion "Yes, it's quite." - if you have any friends using these brands just ask them and listen yourself to the engines in working conditions.)
2) check the availability and cost of spare parts on the market
3) the same refers to filter media
4) try to get info which one is easier to maintain

I have 2 external filters: one is Chinese and another one is TetraTec 1200. Both of them have advantages and disadvantages eg Chinese was cheaper and has a built in UV lamp (big advantage in my opinion) but I have to buy all spare parts and some media on the net... TetraTec is good, not so loud, generally easier in use but I found it a little bit difficult to clean the plastic parts which hang on the tank glass (connection between in/out-take and the hose). It's in a square-like shape - difficult to clean even with a flexible brush (on the other hand, I don't clean it every week). Moreover, I didn't find a pet-shop in Wexford offering spare-parts and media to TetraTec...

I know I didn't help you much...

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01 Jan 2011 14:59 - 01 Jan 2011 15:07 #8 by Ma (mm mm)
For the money vs capacity of cannister I'd go with the TT1200, been running one on my 450 since I set it up, great filter, easy maint very quiet and very versatile with media, easy to clean and extremely hassly free doing filter maint.

Only Eheim I had was a wetdry, great filter extremely fragile, plastic bolts snapped like butterscotch.


Eheim filters are like German tanks ww2 in that they're very effective but overly complicated in design some models are for what is actually needed.



Mark

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01 Jan 2011 16:07 - 01 Jan 2011 16:10 #9 by Dub (Glen Coughlan)
Hi mate I have a trigon 190 up and running on a Jbl 900e filter that is doing the business for the last 6 months not a whisper from it the 1500 jbl would be to much for the size of the tank the 900e will do the jobB)
Hope this helps
Glen
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01 Jan 2011 16:43 - 01 Jan 2011 16:48 #10 by stretnik (stretnik)
Replied by stretnik (stretnik) on topic Re:which filter would you buy???
As I said before, I love my Eheim, best Filter I have ever bought.

Any Filter will fail if you get complacent regarding re-assembly, they are made of plastic, not tungsten,
you need to take it slowly, making sure that all parts are replaced in the right order and that the Motor part of the Filter, ie, the Head is orientated correctly, if it doesn't go back easily you have it the wrong way round. Make sure seals aren't twisted and have sufficient silicone grease applied, not Vaseline, Oil or your mamma's new Skin Cream. Do all of the above and you will save lots of Cash and Heartache.

Kev.
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01 Jan 2011 17:19 - 01 Jan 2011 17:20 #11 by Ma (mm mm)
stretnik wrote:

As I said before, I love my Eheim, best Filter I have ever bought.

Any Filter will fail if you get complacent regarding re-assembly, they are made of plastic, not tungsten,
you need to take it slowly, making sure that all parts are replaced in the right order and that the Motor part of the Filter, ie, the Head is orientated correctly, if it doesn't go back easily you have it the wrong way round. Make sure seals aren't twisted and have sufficient silicone grease applied, not Vaseline, Oil or your mamma's new Skin Cream. Do all of the above and you will save lots of Cash and Heartache.

Kev.


It was accidentally knocked against something and two bolts snapped, not a major bang. I could kick around te TT1200 and it will still work, that suits me fine, if you are completely accident free then fair play but I know how to open and close and maintain a filter at this stage:)

As the impact of such a benign accident is no filter on your 450 litre tank it is a big impact and hence a weakness in the filter for the cost you pay for a wetdry imo


Mark

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01 Jan 2011 17:34 - 01 Jan 2011 17:46 #12 by stretnik (stretnik)
Replied by stretnik (stretnik) on topic Re:which filter would you buy???
Sorry mark if you interpreted the reply as a direct reference to you , it was a general response to educate those less well informed than yourself.:)

Actually, when you think of how simply an Aquarium could explode by contact with the most innocuous of things, It only needs something hard to destroy a Tank, like a Kid throwing a Marble, a Fire Poker would only need to tip a Glass pane to smash it. I can't imagine how the big guys here on the Forum with 40+ Tanks manage without having serious accidents.





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02 Jan 2011 09:57 #13 by jakepitbull (john)
thanks all for the input!

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02 Jan 2011 10:26 #14 by dar (darren curry)
wat a tool, smashes the dam tank and wats the first thing to spring to mind? throw on a t-shirt. i would have whipped off my cacks to stem the flow before administering first aid

where is the fluval brigade hiding?
i only ever had fluval 405 and i had an awfull time using it, the self primer is rubbish, i need a tool box to open the filter to clean it (ok a screwdriver or knife will do, i just have to over exaggerate every thing, but no tool should be needed) and the flow stinks.

this is all my personal experience and does not reflect everyones views, although if something gets rubbish reviews don't listen to the person saying they are great as if or when it jacks in you will want to use extreme violence against that person resulting in some serious prison time and possible recurring nightmares of wat happened in the shower block will haunt you for years to come

pick up an eheim and save doing time (do you think i should put that moto to the eheim board?)

p.s dar is buying a fluval as soon as he gets the energy to get off his backside

Check out the angling section, it is fantastic

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02 Jan 2011 12:30 #15 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
when it comes to the mid-priced brands of filter, Eheim is by far the best.
Uber-expensive equipment that you can get is maybe a bit of an overkill.....and some of that stuff is more like Bang and Olefson HiFi (more of a status than anything else).

It would be better to buy 2 Eheims than 1 supposed Bang and Olefson of the fish world. :)

But I have a mixed bag of filters, and in tanks where filtration is absolutely key, I always use multiple filters.

My old trusty Hagen Powerheads from years ago still keep pumping away. The newer ones seem a bit frail in comparison.

Fluval? I have a few Fluvals in operation....but all are backed-up with powerheads.
I bought the 305 or 405 (I'm lost as Peugeot also seem to make them as well :) ).....it was for nothing euro from MaxiZoo, and at that price is a snip (but not if you're paying the usual 200 euro price in other places). No real problems with it. The primer is a bit duff I must admit.

I had a few NAD powerhead type filters......super powerful at give away prices. But parts are not easy to come by. The powerheads look like the old hagen powerhead design (which were great workhorses).

Back in the days, I would always have a Vortex diatom filter going on a timed system. Brilliant and very reliable, but unless you add a second filtration stage they are not the normal run-of-the-mill biological filters.

ian

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02 Jan 2011 12:47 #16 by jakepitbull (john)
Dub wrote:

Hi mate I have a trigon 190 up and running on a Jbl 900e filter that is doing the business for the last 6 months not a whisper from it the 1500 jbl would be to much for the size of the tank the 900e will do the jobB)
Hope this helps
Glen

what fish do you keep in that setup, mine would be for small community fish(neons,rams,kribs,corys,small loaches)

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02 Jan 2011 14:38 #17 by joey (joe watson)
its always better to over filter, and if you have a spray bar you wont be blasting the fish around the tank and can have a high flow filter (a 1500l/h would do a 190 fine) but go bigger if the filter needs to push the water high up to get it into the tank ie it puts out 1000l/h at 2m output height. i will soon have a 7000l/h pump on my 500l, it only puts out around 4000l/h at the 2m height difference between the sump and spray bar but i need high flow in a planted tank to stop the dead spots. and like others do, i too use powerheads and internal filters (as polishers) in the tank for the extra flow and circulatiuon

Location: Portlaoise, Midlands

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