Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)
Hi,
John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.
I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.
With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.
I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.
If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.
I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.
I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.
Thank you
Darragh Sherwin
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Sean
Sean Crowe
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Location: Navan
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Ian is there any you could recommend as i got one a while back and paid about 40 euro but didnt find it the best as i was using it for both marine and fresh but reading where all over the place even when calibrated right well i mean right is what i done what it said on the box
Sean
I would need to review each brand to give a defo on this against that.
In general, the cheap ones are just that....they are not lab-quality that I would base making a human medication upon.
They are all generally of the same quality and prone to the same problems (although some may handle temp and salinity variations better than others).
My pH meters are PinPoint and medical lab quality ones.
I have a few lab-field-work ones (bought from a chemical suppler) that are similar in quality to the cheaper ones on the market. They give an indication, but nothing spectacular on the accuracy front.
Calibration is always a problem even with high-end lab based meters (in fact, the high-end ones are more tricky to deal with).
I would recommend doing a 3-point calibration to make sure the readings line on the calibration line.
Water should be stirred near the probe so as to help prevent the pH affecting the way the meter reads the pH (yes.....that is a particularly odd side-effect of these meters and bit like paracetamol having a major side effect of causing headaches !!).
If a cheap one is giving mis-reading between freshwater and marine, then it may lack salinity compensation.
ian
Irish Tropical Fish Society (ITFS) Member.
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Ian is there any you could recommend as i got one a while back and paid about 40 euro but didnt find it the best as i was using it for both marine and fresh but reading where all over the place even when calibrated right well i mean right is what i done what it said on the box
Sean
I would need to review each brand to give a defo on this against that.
In general, the cheap ones are just that....they are not lab-quality that I would base making a human medication upon.
They are all generally of the same quality and prone to the same problems (although some may handle temp and salinity variations better than others).
My pH meters are PinPoint and medical lab quality ones.
I have a few lab-field-work ones (bought from a chemical suppler) that are similar in quality to the cheaper ones on the market. They give an indication, but nothing spectacular on the accuracy front.
Calibration is always a problem even with high-end lab based meters (in fact, the high-end ones are more tricky to deal with).
I would recommend doing a 3-point calibration to make sure the readings line on the calibration line.
Water should be stirred near the probe so as to help prevent the pH affecting the way the meter reads the pH (yes.....that is a particularly odd side-effect of these meters and bit like paracetamol having a major side effect of causing headaches !!).
If a cheap one is giving mis-reading between freshwater and marine, then it may lack salinity compensation.
ian
...just what I was thinking
(I'm lying here).
John
Location:
N. Tipp
We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl - year after year.
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It's a long way to Tipperary.
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Ian is there any you could recommend as i got one a while back and paid about 40 euro but didnt find it the best as i was using it for both marine and fresh but reading where all over the place even when calibrated right well i mean right is what i done what it said on the box
Sean
I would need to review each brand to give a defo on this against that.
In general, the cheap ones are just that....they are not lab-quality that I would base making a human medication upon.
They are all generally of the same quality and prone to the same problems (although some may handle temp and salinity variations better than others).
My pH meters are PinPoint and medical lab quality ones.
I have a few lab-field-work ones (bought from a chemical suppler) that are similar in quality to the cheaper ones on the market. They give an indication, but nothing spectacular on the accuracy front.
Calibration is always a problem even with high-end lab based meters (in fact, the high-end ones are more tricky to deal with).
I would recommend doing a 3-point calibration to make sure the readings line on the calibration line.
Water should be stirred near the probe so as to help prevent the pH affecting the way the meter reads the pH (yes.....that is a particularly odd side-effect of these meters and bit like paracetamol having a major side effect of causing headaches !!).
If a cheap one is giving mis-reading between freshwater and marine, then it may lack salinity compensation.
ian
...just what I was thinking
(I'm lying here).
John
I knew someone would agree with me.
Irish Tropical Fish Society (ITFS) Member.
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John
Location:
N. Tipp
We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl - year after year.
ITFS member.
It's a long way to Tipperary.
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