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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

Substrate should be sold in litres Discuss

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02 May 2013 19:57 #1 by Q_Comets (Declan Chambers)
Hi

So I know some substrate is sold in litres but shouldn't all substrate be sold in litres?

Substrate required equals L x W x H right so why is the gravel in sold in KGs?

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02 May 2013 20:10 #2 by ck1 (chris)
Does it really matter. i would imagine that its is easier to do in kgs when it comes to packing the product

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02 May 2013 21:55 #3 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
Maybe, maybe not.

The advantage of sellling by mass means that it is the same wherever you happen to live or buy it, whereas selling by volume will change depending on what atmosphere you are in and where you are.

2 litres peat? is that compact or open? 1 kg of peat....it will always be 1 kg.

ian

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02 May 2013 22:34 #4 by Q_Comets (Declan Chambers)
Damn you Ian and your common sense perfectly logical batting the argument out of the park or for six depending on your choice of batting sport

Perhaps I should have included a :dry: in my original post.

Don't see why it wouldn't work for some substrate though just pack it in fixed volume containers, obviously stuff that compacts would be tricky.

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03 May 2013 14:15 #5 by JustinK (Justin Kelly)

Maybe, maybe not.

The advantage of sellling by mass means that it is the same wherever you happen to live or buy it, whereas selling by volume will change depending on what atmosphere you are in and where you are.

2 litres peat? is that compact or open? 1 kg of peat....it will always be 1 kg.

ian


C'mon Ian, you didnt apply your reasoning to the other side of the arguement.
How dry is the peat ?
They could always give an approximation of volume,
but simple maths on the size of the bag would give you that.
For transporting, price is charged by weight.

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03 May 2013 17:47 #6 by igmillichip (ian millichip)

Maybe, maybe not.

The advantage of sellling by mass means that it is the same wherever you happen to live or buy it, whereas selling by volume will change depending on what atmosphere you are in and where you are.

2 litres peat? is that compact or open? 1 kg of peat....it will always be 1 kg.

ian


C'mon Ian, you didnt apply your reasoning to the other side of the arguement.
How dry is the peat ?
They could always give an approximation of volume,
but simple maths on the size of the bag would give you that.
For transporting, price is charged by weight.


But we would also need to take into account percentage void an degree of wetting. ;)

It's all a bit like the old question of which weighe more, a kilogramme of lead or a kilogramme of feathers.
The answer is, generally (if actually done in practice), the kilogramme of lead.

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