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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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13 Aug 2014 10:37 #1 by irish-zx10r (James feenan)
Has many got these installed whats the pro and cons ? Are men more conscious of how much electricity is used in a house How can one explain to a woman and make her more conscious on electricity use should one lay down the law when it comes down to serious matters like this. Do you really save money at the end of the day?

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13 Aug 2014 11:48 #2 by Darkslice (Stephen Walsh)
no you dont save anything going this way, same price per unit
but if you run out of credit when on holidays - guess what happens to your freezer or fish

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13 Aug 2014 12:23 #3 by Q_Comets (Declan Chambers)
Have seen bad things written about these regarding dodgy or downright dangerous installs.

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13 Aug 2014 12:42 #4 by davey_c (dave clarke)
Have 1 fitted the past over a year and had no problems, esb musta been conning us outa alot because our bill halved after we got the meter in without changing a thing... 30€ does us a week and we could budget for less if we need to... shes at home all day with the tv n that on and a marine tank so were doing better with it installed anyways.
I wouldnt go with prepaid power ir any of them because they charge you 7€ a week for the service... we were in arrears with our esb company so they fitted it without charges, what goes into our meter is ours to use apart from what comes off what we owe on our last paper bill.

Below tank is for sale

my plywood tank build.

www.irishfishkeepers.com/index.php/forum...k-build-diary#137768

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13 Aug 2014 13:08 #5 by irish-zx10r (James feenan)
€30 a week sounds good does the ESB take half on a outstanding bill my bills are about €300 every two months so that works out at €35 per week
My girlfriend uses tumble dryer for kids and baby clothes and the immersion for hot water for the baby bath

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13 Aug 2014 15:25 #6 by davey_c (dave clarke)
35 isnt bad either for what your using, we'd rarely use the emersion with the electric shower n dat but the washin machine and dishwasher would be on twice every 2nd day etc..... emersion costs €3 for 1.5hrs and kettle 20c a boil... we like our hot sups :lol:
Esb takes 25% of what we put in off the outstanding bill.
Aquarium wise im running 2× 300w heaters, 3× 5200 lph powerheads, skimmer, 6×39w t5 unit and i think thats it

Below tank is for sale

my plywood tank build.

www.irishfishkeepers.com/index.php/forum...k-build-diary#137768

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13 Aug 2014 15:44 #7 by Darkslice (Stephen Walsh)
wow, that's a lot of cash for ESB,
My tank only cost about 10 a week (750 litres @ 29 degree's @ ~500 litres water change per week)

ESB is about 100 per month

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13 Aug 2014 16:27 #8 by irish-zx10r (James feenan)
It looks like its other things running up the price for us and not my 5 fish tanks the washing mc and tumble drier goes all the time with kids clothes but I think things will change.
@dave I like how u have the prices down to a tee

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13 Aug 2014 16:29 #9 by Darkslice (Stephen Walsh)

d tumble drier


there you go now that's a real eater of power, we dont really use ours at all, maybe once a month

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13 Aug 2014 16:48 #10 by irish-zx10r (James feenan)

wow, that's a lot of cash for ESB,
My tank only cost about 10 a week (750 litres @ 29 degree's @ ~500 litres water change per week)

ESB is about 100 per month


500L water change that's lot are u going to get caught with a water meter ? I only noticed one of my heaters were plugged out since the last water change a week ago the two other heaters did there job and kept the temperature right .

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13 Aug 2014 16:48 #11 by paddyc1 (Paddy Corrigan)
I had a guy call to the door last week from one of the pre-pay power companies....the one that I didn't name but just did ;-)
He was the most unprofessional sales person I ever met !
He had no literature to give me, couldn't tell me the exact standing charge or unit rate (other than that it was the exact same as ESB) and he neglected to tell me until he thought I was interested that there is a weekly insurance payment on the meter that would equate to about €200 a year or more.
He told me that if I was very clever with my usage, I would save money. The way I see it is, I would have to be very very clever, just to cover the insurance payment.
I sent him on his way needless to say

Tallaght, Dublin 24

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13 Aug 2014 17:17 #12 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
Don't go the pre-paid meter route.
Simple as.

ian

Irish Tropical Fish Society (ITFS) Member.

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13 Aug 2014 17:36 #13 by Darkslice (Stephen Walsh)
About 10 euro a month when the water charges come in

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14 Aug 2014 20:16 - 14 Aug 2014 20:19 #14 by JustinK (Justin Kelly)
@Davey : your immersion should be about 45cent for 1.5hrs.
Approx 2/3 kw sink/bath @ 15cents per kw?
Last edit: 14 Aug 2014 20:19 by JustinK (Justin Kelly). Reason: Math

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14 Aug 2014 20:21 #15 by irish-zx10r (James feenan)
I just relised you have to be home when you topup online I didn't relise the code has to be entered each time.

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14 Aug 2014 22:13 #16 by sincgar (Feargal Costello)
I got myself one of those owl meters. It allows me see what individuals items are using. Turn on kettle and boom. Can even set the unit cost

At night at bed time it is easy to see if something left on as I can see units been used and if above expected I can check what and switch off

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15 Aug 2014 07:16 #17 by paulv (paul vickers)
Im thinking the same route with a pre pay meter, my 2 monthly is about 360€. Im nervous that the power will be cut if I dont have enough to put in the meter on any given day. 4 kids, 2 adults house and car to run on the dole is a struggle. Im saying no to the pre pay..

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15 Aug 2014 08:50 #18 by irish-zx10r (James feenan)

Im thinking the same route with a pre pay meter, my 2 monthly is about 360€. Im nervous that the power will be cut if I dont have enough to put in the meter on any given day. 4 kids, 2 adults house and car to run on the dole is a struggle. Im saying no to the pre pay..


We have two teenage kids and three under the age of four no one here was conscious of electricity till I got the meter in. When I come home from night shift the big flood light would be left on along with other things. I know where your coming from with money and what if your running low its bit like a phone that uses 5 euro credit a day when it goes low there is 5 euro emergency and they don't turn off on weekends or bank holidays.

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01 Jan 2016 01:28 #19 by robert (robert carter)
I know this is an old thread ,20 year ago when I had the big koi pond 5000gals and putting about 10000 gals through two four bay filters plus 9 tropical tanks in the front room ,that went shortly after the pond went in , the esb contacted me to ask what I was doing with all the power I was using . I was offered a night rate meter all usage from 11pm to 8am is half price ,couldnt believe the difference . At present running the newer 1000gal pond 350 litre trop tank , my workshop at the house as I am a self employed mercanic and both of us home all day last esb bill was 240 euro two months . Dishwasher ,washing machine, and immersion only go on at night after 11pm . So don't go prepay go night rate meter

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03 Jan 2016 00:25 #20 by irish-zx10r (James feenan)
I went prepay after I am running 3ft 5ft and 6ft
And between all the things running in the house it works out between 5 to 7 euro a day I am happy enough with the price.

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03 Jan 2016 08:47 #21 by paulv (paul vickers)
I went prepay almost a year ago, I recon I'm saving about 50 a month. I did replace a cracked ceramic hob with a bottle gas hob. A cylinder of gas lasts 3 months, that's about 10 a month on gas. Overall I'm saving on prepay.

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