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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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26 Apr 2016 15:29 #1 by LemonJelly (Johnny Cowley)
I'm going to be starting on a riparian hillstream setup soon ie the tank half full with plants growing above the waterline. I have a fogger unit that I was going to set up above the tank to give a little humidity for the plants but I was thinking (dangerous, I know) what if I placed it in the aquarium; separate from the fish but in the water. Does anyone see any risk/downsides?

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26 Apr 2016 17:39 #2 by robert (robert carter)
reckon that set up would look fantasic, love the idea of the mister

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26 Apr 2016 17:58 #3 by LemonJelly (Johnny Cowley)
Thanks. I wouldn't have it on all the time, just 3-4 times a day for an hour at a time. It's a really cool effect but it'd also keep the plants damp.

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27 Apr 2016 13:34 #4 by Bill (Bill Hunter)
How does your fogger unit work? If it's ultra-sound, it may interfere with the fish.

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27 Apr 2016 13:44 #5 by robert (robert carter)
to my knowledge all foggers/misters work on ultra sonic sound it breaks the water up into minute particules that then have the appearance of fog . after a while the disc in the unit has to be replaced

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27 Apr 2016 18:21 #6 by Bill (Bill Hunter)
you can get fogger nozzles, I've used them, although they do require plumbing in. Some species of fish are known to be repelled by ultra-sound, you might have to experiment.
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27 Apr 2016 20:45 #7 by LemonJelly (Johnny Cowley)
@Bill it's ultrasonic. I made a chamber for it to sit on top of the tank where the fog spills down a tube into the tank space. Maybe I should just stick with that.

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27 Apr 2016 23:27 #8 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
"Ultrasound" is quite a non-descript thing considering it is covering frequencies ranging from 10^4 to 10^9 hz.
The upper limit of sensitivity in fish (or dolphin) that I know of is in the order of 10^5 hz..............but the piezo foggers I have for reptiles and amphibians are 10 to 20 times that (in the order of 10^6 hz).

The biggest risk to fish is lower frequencies.

But...........these megahertz frequencies may have some effects that I have not seen.
(never say never when it comes to nature)

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28 Apr 2016 00:02 #9 by LemonJelly (Johnny Cowley)
cheers ian. as is so often the case in fishkeeping, "proceed with caution" seems to be the order of the day.

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28 Apr 2016 20:34 #10 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
I don't see a big problem with the use of a fogger based upon what is know about their effects on fish a priori.

The ultrasound frequencies often quoted for fish that can sense ultrasound as much much lower than may be the frequency the fogger uses.

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