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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

CO2 bottle - where to refill it?

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15 Dec 2010 20:43 - 30 May 2012 08:37 #31 by Katherine (Katarzyna Glebocka)
Success!!! I found a place 15 km far from me in Tagoat! They have technical CO2 but I hope it won't make any difference to my fish and plants!!

So at the moment we have following addresses:

Co. Dublin:

1. Seahorse Aquariums, Turnpike Road, Ballymount, Dublin 22 (ph 01 4595650)

2. Doyle and Doyle Wholesalers, unit 78A, Cookstown industrial estate, Tallaght. Tel 01 4131336. Rolly checked prices (see his post below): €25 for a 2kg and 5kg bottle, both same price, and to buy new both are €50.

Co. Clare

1. AquaticGardenShop, 4 Gort Leamhan, Tulla Road,Ennis, Co. Clare, phone: (00353) 089-4147206
On 19 May 2012 20:37, Daniel wrote in
Re: Fire Extinguisher refill?
I'm refiling most of the CO2 cylinders, and CO2 FE.
If any one come to me with AquaticGardenShop Cylinder I will just swap it for new full and pressure tested unit(2kg only for swap),
call me before to make sure that I have full one
2kg is 8-10 euro,
5kg is 15-18,
depends on witch supplier is available at the time. It usually takes 2-3 days,
If any one call me earlier on and tell me what size of cylinder have 2kg, 3,2kg or 5kg I can try to organize same full one for swap. That option is for people who don't care what cylinder that have as long it's pressure tested, same size and will work safely (Your cylinder has to be in good condition )
Dan.


Co. Carlow:

1. Maidenhead Aquatics, Arboretum Lifestyle and Garden Centre Carlow. 059 9722747 (as far as I know only JBL bottles 500 ml and 2 kg - correct me if I am wrong)

Co. Wexford:

1. Larry Browne Fire Protection Company, Hillcastle, Tagoat, Co. Wexford, tel. 053-9131281, contact: Aidan - 086 830 82 49 (very nice person) If you call and make an appointment, they are ready to fill your bottles within couple of minutes even after hours or on Saturday!!) Price for refilling: 500 ml - €10.00 and 2 kg - €30.00, last time paid €15.00 (April, 2012)

Joey, did you check this address in Portlaoise? :)

If you know any other addresses in Ireland - just post them and we will add them to the list.
Last edit: 30 May 2012 08:37 by Katherine (Katarzyna Glebocka).

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15 Dec 2010 21:27 #32 by Rolly (Ruaidri Hegarty)
To give an update on Doyle and Doyle Wholesales. I had to fill my bottles the other day. They now have a fixed price list (last time they seemed to pull a price out of thier head!). Recession must be hitting them hard, prices are up! €25 for a 2kg and 5kg bottle, both same price, and to buy new both are €50.

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15 Dec 2010 21:32 #33 by Katherine (Katarzyna Glebocka)
Thanks Rolly, list updated with prices... :)

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15 Dec 2010 23:12 #34 by joey (joe watson)
i will try to call into them tomorrow or friday and find out better details, i'm sure its welding gases so dont know if there will be argon in the filling tank but will ask all the q's and get prices and address

Location: Portlaoise, Midlands

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15 Dec 2010 23:17 #35 by Katherine (Katarzyna Glebocka)
Thanks, will look forward to hearing from you. There are 2 CO2 used for welding: one pure CO2 without any additives (this is what we need for our tanks) and another mixed with argon (tank extermination). They should have both in their offer. :laugh:

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07 Apr 2011 21:56 #36 by Dejwys (Deividas K.)

Katherine, dont know if its much help to ya, but there is a place in tallaght in dublin where i get mine filled. cant remember if it was 10 or 20 euros for 2 bottles, 2kg and a 5kg. Probably not much good to ya unless ya visit dublin a bit. i will find their info if ya want it.

Rolly

hi Rolly, can u get me addres, or phone number of the place in tallagh where u can refill co2 botles.thanks

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07 Apr 2011 22:11 #37 by Katherine (Katarzyna Glebocka)
Hi Dejwys, they are Doyle and Doyle listed in the first post on this page. Good luck!

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19 Dec 2011 11:53 #38 by joey (joe watson)
a good point as this should be an ongoing and updated topic. although your observation of more new posts re: planted tanks is valid, a few i have noticed since revisiting the forum after a few months, is that people are talking about "walstad" [sp?] method planted aquariums, which require very little care, ergo very little runnign costs, and negates the need for injected co2

Location: Portlaoise, Midlands

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24 Dec 2011 15:26 #39 by joey (joe watson)
the method, in principal, is a good idea but in a closed environment and using very rich soils has me worried. the fish generally are not from the regions where the peat soils are from. even with a bit of fertile aquarium soils in my tank, plant growth exploded for the first few months, even with regular large water changes the algae came and went in all forms and colours it was a total pain in the hole. now, after a year or so, it has settled to where i need to do very few and very small water changes and everything is stable. but thats a 500l system where a small change has little effect. in smaller systems, a small change will have a bigger impact on water chemistry/quality and fish health

Location: Portlaoise, Midlands

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08 Jan 2012 05:25 #40 by BlueRam (Sean Crowe)
hi could anyone give me the name and number off a few places around dublin and meath that i could get the bottles refilled as i have to head up tomo was going to see if i can give them a buzz to see f anywhere is open to do it

thanks sean

Sean Crowe

ITFS Member

Location: Navan

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26 Jun 2012 10:39 #41 by zabol001 (Marcin)
Hello
Anybody know where to refill around Athlone??
Co. Roscommon or Co. Weastmeath ???

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26 Jun 2012 11:24 - 26 Jun 2012 11:25 #42 by Aquaworld (Darius)
Hi we do refills as well Co. Dublin retail shop /Nationwide by Courier
Aquaworld Aquariums Ltd.
Unit H2A Block H
Centre Point Business Park
Oak Drive
Dublin 12
Phone 01-4243012

€25 for 2kg bottle purchased from our store REFILL LINK . You just swap the bottles at the counter or we can do by courier as well.

Please add us to the first post
Last edit: 26 Jun 2012 11:25 by Aquaworld (Darius).

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26 Jun 2012 13:36 #43 by seahorse (Kealan Doyle)
Hi Everyone - Seahorse here.

Yes we can do the refills for CO2. I just want to give a bit of experience that I have had with CO2.
I have been told that there are the 2 grades of CO2. Food grade - that we want for our fish tanks - this is also the Co2 you get at the pubs because we drink it to make our Coke have bubbles. Also the welder Co2 which can be harmful for aquariums and not to be used for the coke machines. I have not had any experience with people using the second welders gas in Aquariums so can not verify that this is true or not.

BOC do have the expensive annual charge, which as much as I do not like to pay for it - it has to be done. This includes bottle rental (large bottles) which we have at Seahorse for CO2 and also compressed Oxygen which we use when shipping out web orders (fish can survive 48 Hours when used - as long as they are kept warm.)

We have customer who bring us the pub CO2 bottles and we refill these no problem. We do however have problems with older tanks that have no stamps to verify that they have been pressure checked.
The way it works is as follows,

From new you get 10 years from the original stamp, which will give you the build date of your cylinder. After this it will need a pressure test and will be re-stamped to verify that a pressure test has been done. After this there is a pressure test needed every 5 years.

A pressure test will cost you €20. In this the cylinder is open up, checked inside and then rebuilt with new O-rings. Then it is pressure tested and stamped with the date - then it's good to go for 5 years of refilling.

Only once I have come across a bottle with a different than normal fitting and we had to make a customised fitting with chewing gum to fill the cylinder with gas. (very hi-tech)

Seahorse Aquarium will fill any size bottle for €20. It is not done on the spot but will be done in a few days. If you are a hard core plant enthusiast or heavy calcium reactor user, you will have 2 bottles so you have the hot swap available for when the other runs out.

Hope that helps

Andrew

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26 Jun 2012 16:11 #44 by zabol001 (Marcin)
Hello
Thanks for help.
The problem is i already run out today and i need to refill as soon i can.
Anybody refill with them ??
www.ddwholesale.ie/

I rang them and they doing this and the best they know about using Co2 to fishtank :)

I will go tommorow to get my gas :)

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26 Jun 2012 19:13 #45 by m4r10 (m4r10)

Hello
Thanks for help.
The problem is i already run out today and i need to refill as soon i can.
Anybody refill with them ??
www.ddwholesale.ie/

I rang them and they doing this and the best they know about using Co2 to fishtank :)

I will go tommorow to get my gas :)


They will refill on the spot. In the light of new info about CO2 (see above post from seahorse), don't know what type of CO2 ddwholesale are using, but mention to them that you're going to use the CO2 for a fish tank and they will fill it with (allegedly) the proper type.

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27 Jun 2012 17:10 #46 by zabol001 (Marcin)
I was in Dublin today, fill cylinders with www.ddwholesale.ie

Long way to go but nothing around Athlone
I paid 25 euro for filling 1.5 kg

They use Food grade Co2 same as for beer or coca cola

I asked for additional cylinders.
Lad offered me 5 kg cylinder from fire extinguisher, I paid only for gas and got a free cylinder.

I can easily recommend this place

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17 Feb 2013 17:45 #47 by alan61979 (Alan)
Where is the best place (ie chepest) to buy a CO2 tank in the Dublin area? I'm also looking for a regulator. Anyone bought anything cheap recently?

What size CO2 tank is best suited for a 450l tank?

I'm not looking to use an extinguisher.

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17 Feb 2013 19:23 #48 by Katherine (Katarzyna Glebocka)

Where is the best place (ie chepest) to buy a CO2 tank in the Dublin area? I'm also looking for a regulator. Anyone bought anything cheap recently?


I'll be selling my set soon.

What size CO2 tank is best suited for a 450l tank?

There is no specific cylinder size or capacity. It depends on the usage. The bigger the better but just consider an ugly more than a meter high cylinder in your living-room. In my opinion the best is the one you can put into the fish tank stand. Don't go into 0.5 kg bottles - too small, too expensive refilling.

I'm not looking to use an extinguisher.

My CO2 has been design for planted tanks - cylinder is 2.5 kg.

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17 Feb 2013 19:38 #49 by alan61979 (Alan)
How come you're selling? Are you not happy with the results?

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17 Feb 2013 19:50 #50 by Katherine (Katarzyna Glebocka)

How come you're selling? Are you not happy with the results?


I was very satisfied with it, the result were georgeous and it is difficult decision to sell it but due to electicity cost I am withdrowing from HiTech fish tank and I am going into low tech. It is enough for me to pay for filter and heater working all the time. I do not have lighting and use only sun-light for my tank. Plants are not growing so rapidly but they still grow and I have to cut them every month. Fish seems to be happier because I do not fertilize the tank and pseudomugil gertrudae started to breed...

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