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Hi,
John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.
I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.
With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.
I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.
If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.
I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.
I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.
Thank you
Darragh Sherwin
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10 Dec 2012 22:03 #1
by curefan (Dave Massey)
Hi all,
Can we assume since we got screwed so badly in the budget that there will be no water rates introduced now?
Surely not
Dave.
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10 Dec 2012 23:05 #2
by davey_c (dave clarke)
there's only 1 way to get out of it and thats to do something about it.... in fairness the irish are a bunch of wasters who take it up the arse!!
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10 Dec 2012 23:36 #3
by Q_Comets (Declan Chambers)
@curefan was that a sarcastic face?
All that bank dept that was converted to sovereign dept has to be paid back by someone
and if you don't play golf with politicians on a regular basis you'll be paying.
But maybe there is another forum for that.
Better get started on the water butt methinks
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11 Dec 2012 23:32 #4
by Jim (Jim Lawlor)
We need to discover oil and get some f¥<{ off money.
In the meantime, be prepared to pay through the nose for every drop
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12 Dec 2012 00:43 #5
by jeff (Jeff Scully)
Im sick of saying this but il say it one more time on here for you that dont know me the only way we can sort out these pri**s wrecking our country time after time is to let the country be run by the people who want to look after the people who work their ass's off on sh1t wages to live a normal life without getting beat up every year when the last year was a struggle the richer should not get richer every year and the poorer getting poorer i can go on and on but i wont cause we all know the score, my goal would be to have sinn fein and people before profit alliance give it a go cause in my eyes their the only ones who care about the struggling people in this country
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12 Dec 2012 11:12 #6
by curefan (Dave Massey)
...so ye reckon the property tax is not going to cover the water rates then?
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I atually thought that might be put to bed now with all the pain that is already out there!
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12 Dec 2012 11:55 #7
by davey_c (dave clarke)
...so ye reckon the property tax is not going to cover the water rates then? (
I atually thought that might be put to bed now with all the pain that is already out there!
do you honestly believe we'd get off that easy?? not being smart or anything but it seems if they can take money they will!! they are well aware of what their doing but just protecting themselves.... for starters we need to cut all foreign funds all together and look after our own... that could easily cover all these charges they put on us!!
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12 Dec 2012 12:09 #8
by davey_c (dave clarke)
Im sick of saying this but il say it one more time on here for you that dont know me the only way we can sort out these pri**s wrecking our country time after time is to let the country be run by the people who want to look after the people who work their ass's off on sh1t wages to live a normal life without getting beat up every year when the last year was a struggle the richer should not get richer every year and the poorer getting poorer i can go on and on but i wont cause we all know the score, my goal would be to have sinn fein and people before profit alliance give it a go cause in my eyes their the only ones who care about the struggling people in this country
totaly agree jeff.
have ye heard of the most recently formed sub-party for sinn fein? their called tus nua, a friend of mine is part of it and councilor for athy... they seem more interested in the north than sorting out the government!! lets say for example they are campaigning to have the london removed from the name londonderry.... what another absolute waste of resources!!
i do agree though that we could do with giving sinn fein a shot... if anyone remembers correctly in the early 80's we also had fine gael in power and people also ended up pennyless so how they got in again is beyond me!! i think we need a mutiny lol
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12 Dec 2012 20:47 #9
by igmillichip (ian millichip)
A Government that does not look after its people as a priority over looking after "investors" is not worthy of being a government.
Yes, mistakes can be made by any government.......but at least there should be a genuine aim to help the people (that is people who do not play golf with politicians).
Property Tax....is simply not right.
It would be a different mater if this were really like the Rates/Poll-Tax/Council-Tax of the UK and the monies were truly going to the local authorities to supply local amenities such as totally free state schools (including a heavily subsidised school meal) that does not require parents splashing out money (for books, registration fees etc) for their kids to be educated, and on decent roads (has anyone driven through Dun Laoghaire.....where a high percentage of property tax was successfully collected).
But there is little evidence that it is like the UK rates (or whatever name it goes under).
If a Government is too thick to work a policy around increasing Measurable Domestic Progress instead of simply relying on doing the easy work on GDP then they need to get some proper brains in the government.
There are ways a country can survive and recover from a financial problem without shafting the people of that country.
ian
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13 Dec 2012 20:52 #10
by jeff (Jeff Scully)
@davey_c never heard of them although i would personally like the word london removed from derry i hate hearing it have to say i do grit my teeth when i do but thats just me
very good point about the 80's i was only a young lad then but i remember my parents and family struggling and talking about it
I also hope that people that dont vote may now cop on that they could of (maybe) Stopped these ticks from ruining our 'lower and middle class' families from the struggle ahead
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14 Dec 2012 10:32 #11
by igmillichip (ian millichip)
@Jeff....I often think that some governments make every effort to deter certain people from voting.
The Property Tax may well be one of those methods whereby voting, the ability to gain third-level education grants etc etc may well be linked to the paying of such a Tax.
With the methods used to check-up on people already seen, I see that this is akin to a poll-tax.
When the poll-tax was first introduced into England, the people beheaded the Archbishop of Cantebury and almost took power from the king: a revolution, a people up-rising.
As I said, I don't have a major problem with paying towards the infrastructure of a country; but I do have a problem splashing out money where massive amounts of EU money have been squandered by quangos and money-grabbing folk, and I do have a major problem in helping to bailing out banks with their non-legitimate business deals (a high-street bank should be a high-street bank......accepts deposits, give low risk loans, charge interest on those low-risk loans, and then give depositors some interest, and not support investments from 'share-holders' and 'bond-holders')
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14 Dec 2012 11:50 - 14 Dec 2012 12:07 #13
by Muppetkiller (Stephen)
I just hope people remember that Fianna Fail I feel is responsible for a lot of our problems now. I felt they were super *******. The government today could have done a lot more for us then they have to date. They got elected because they promised so much and would turn things around. Two years later looks to be getting worse & worse.
As for the comment about oil. I know we have oil off the Irish cost but we have giving it away for next to noting in return. I think if they charged like 60 to 80% tax on all oil taking out of the Irish sea you wont see the companies all ready taking the oil out packing their bags. They will stay their as they are still going to make money. But it would prob stop other companies coming in looking for new oil.
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JohnH (John). Reason: Will explain in a PM
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