giving away fish to a good home ????????

Hi all,
I was just wondering if when you give away fish for free are you entitled to have an issue if this person then sells the fish on or is it any of your business what they do with them. I would be interested to hear others opinions on this?
Jim

Yeah I would be peeved if I gave my fish away to a good home and they were then sold on again

You give them away ,that's it, otherwise do you intend the receiver to keep them until either party dies? They are Fish, not a legacy. To do otherwise would require a contract, a commitment to keep them as you would want them ever more! Would selling them make it any different? Does the Fish Shop selling them expect you to enter into a formal agreement to keep them in the manner they were accustomed to? I very much doubt it.

When we give or sell our charges , we can only hope they will be given the best of care, it is all we can hope for.

Once you give or sell Fish to someone, what they decide to do is none of anyone else's business.

I wonder how many of us who have given or sold fish to someone , know where they are today. To expend any energy wondering is time seriously wasted! Lots more important stuff going on in the World right now.

If someone takes free Fish and sells them on, it's fair game. There are people who have pets for years that they suddenly, through no fault of their own, have to move on, you cannot keep wondering where they are or what has happened to them.

H.

Hi some valid points made, but I guess as john mentioned if you pass them on to someone for free as a good deed or as an act of kindness it would be nice if they were of the same mind and passed them on for free instead of for profit.
jim

How can you enforce such a thing? even if you were to stipulate the transfer of ownership depended upon your wishes that the Fish were not sold but given away free, how on Earth could anyone police it.

You sell the Fish, there ends your ownership. Anything after the transaction is the new owners business.

If the new owner passes them on to someone for free and he in turn does the same, the circle could go on ad infinitum, it has to reach a point of common sense.

H.

Just to throw a spanner in the works....
What if you gave the reciever free fish yet the receiver had plenty more fish at home so a few weeks down the line they gave away a few SHOP BOUGHT FISH making abit of room for free.... would it be so bad then to sell fish ye may have recieved for free previously? If the good deed is being passed on in some way shape or form what does it matter?
Btw that was a fabricated scenario but still worth discussing I think considering its relevance.

Jim i hope i didn't offend you and if i did i am sorry i will speak open on the form for everyone to see.

here is the fish list

two bala sharks €20 ono ( one was yours that i got for free off you and i am greatful )
the other was mine i wanted them to go as a pair and i felt giving one for free and selling one would not be right i needed money to buy some fish after my bad luck from a while back, i dont do this to often and i always offer as much help and i give out free things every chance i get and help other fish keepers

The other fish i got for free are going for free with the two anglefish
same thing i am selling the two anglefish for €20 and its to help out with more fish
over the next week and hopefully it will start building my stock of cichlids back up before xmas.

once again i am very sorry



James

Ski wrote:

Yeah I would be peeved if I gave my fish away to a good home and they were then sold on again

+1

I kinda agree with the basic point that if you give something away, or sell it, then what happens afterwards isn't your concern really, you've given up any right to the item or what happens to it. That said, I personally wouldn't be comfortable selling something that was given to me for free.

I also do think that context is important. If someone kept on saying 'yep, I'll take the free fish that are being offered' and then kept on selling them, that's not on, at least in my opinion. But if someone got some free fish and then circumstances changed, that's a different story.

Also, fair play to James for publically explaining himself when he doesn't really need to. Firstly, his explanation shows that he was in no way accepting free fish with the idea of profiting from them. And I also believe the fact that he wanted to explain himself shows that he had no ulterior motive.

J.

Jasonb wrote:

Also, fair play to James for publically explaining himself when he doesn't really need to. Firstly, his explanation shows that he was in no way accepting free fish with the idea of profiting from them. And I also believe the fact that he wanted to explain himself shows that he had no ulterior motive.

J.

+1

Jasonb wrote:

I kinda agree with the basic point that if you give something away, or sell it, then what happens afterwards isn't your concern really, you've given up any right to the item or what happens to it.

I also do think that context is important. If someone kept on saying 'yep, I'll take the free fish that are being offered' and then kept on selling them, that's not on, at least in my opinion. But if someone got some free fish and then circumstances changed, that's a different story.


J.

+1

H.

Jaysus Jim what's the craic,could you of not just sent the chap a text or phone call (assuming you have his number) or even a PM on here and ask the guy what's going on? Again 'assuming' it's James you are aiming this post at,why would you feel the need to air your annoyance on a public Fish forum? Hope you all kiss and make up lads though.

Ger

ger310 wrote:

Jaysus Jim what's the craic,could you of not just sent the chap a text or phone call (assuming you have his number) or even a PM on here and ask the guy what's going on? Again 'assuming' it's James you are aiming this post at,why would you feel the need to air your annoyance on a public Fish forum? Hope you all kiss and make up lads though.

Ger

Ger it might not be me but i own up to it and what i did was wrong
i got fish off jim for free and sold one of his with one of mine the rest went for free
to a friend of mine. maybe there is also someone else in his line of fire.

ger310 wrote:

Jaysus Jim what's the craic,could you of not just sent the chap a text or phone call (assuming you have his number) or even a PM on here and ask the guy what's going on? Again 'assuming' it's James you are aiming this post at,why would you feel the need to air your annoyance on a public Fish forum? Hope you all kiss and make up lads though.

Ger

fully agree with ger. A pack of smokes, 2 pints, cheap haif cut, all a tenner. I know its a point of principle but lets keep it in proportion.

There is a great song by The Eagles called "Get Over It" well worth a listen.

H.

James I really wasn't referring to anything you had done, I seen your post and had forgotten that I had given you the bala shark when you collected the barbs. Honest it was a question I was pondering based on another source I had been reading.
jim

newbejkjimk wrote:

James I really wasn't referring to anything you had done, I seen your post and had forgotten that I had given you the bala shark when you collected the barbs. Honest it was a question I was pondering based on another source I had been reading.
jim

That's on Jim I do understand what your saying it is not right for people to sell something they got for free it
Should be passed on for free again. I know in my case I was trying to get back up and running with my tank and cichlids
It's still not easy to manage and I am going to sell a few more things to fund my next project don't worry I won't be selling any fish.
Yours are doing great and my friend has a nice setup with the barbs and few other fish in one tank and the sharks are in a seperate tank by them self.