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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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30 Jul 2009 21:57 #1 by Daragh_Owens (Daragh Owens)
One thing really bugs me with the For Sale threads is that when someone posts a tank or fish for sale is the posts that follow advising the poster to reduce their price. Fair enough if the original poster asks for a suggested price/value, that's different. It is the unsolicited comments that bug me.

Ifsomeone wants to post an ad for a 2 foot tank at €1000, leave them at it, the lack of response should be sufficent to tell them they may need to revise there pricing strategy.

If someone wants to post an ad with minimal details and no photo - leave them at it, we are not marketing gurus and suggestions for photos and more details should only come from people that are interested in buying, not just bumping a dumb ad.

I know if I was selling something I would certainly not appreciate someone "valuing" it for me especially when they have no intention to purchase at any price :angry:

Rant over, normal service will return shortly.



Daragh

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30 Jul 2009 23:36 #2 by sheag35 (Seamus Gillespie)
good on ya daragh, now have a nice cuppa and calm down ;) lol

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31 Jul 2009 00:30 #3 by derek (Derek Doyle)
enjoyed that. :lol:

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13 Aug 2009 19:35 #4 by Tom (Tom Brecknell)
Keeping the rant going......................................................

This is still going on today, people are still advising other’s how to sell their tanks etc. Would it be possible to have a template that has to be filled in before anything can be sold and this might stop people giving advice on how to sell?

Tom.B)

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13 Aug 2009 22:16 - 13 Aug 2009 22:18 #5 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
I think Tom's idea is very good. Im on the lookout at present for a tank and to be honest some of the tanks are just plain silly,being sold by people who dont know what they are selling or else are overvaluing their tanks. However on the flip side there is some very good tanks out there also for cheap. Anyway if anyone has a nice 450 litre tank for sale let me know :)
Stand must be included ideally so that it is in good enough nick so herself will allow it into the sitting room!!!

Gavin
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13 Aug 2009 23:29 #6 by JohnH (John)
Replied by JohnH (John) on topic Re:Bugs me to see...
I'm with Daragh on this one.

This last advert for a tank specifically invites interested people to phone or email the man to discuss price etc.
If you can't be bothered to abide by his suggested terms don't come on here whingeing that he hasn't given a price.
The ad was most specific about what is being offered...phone or email the man! No template is necessary.

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N. Tipp

We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl - year after year.


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It's a long way to Tipperary.

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13 Aug 2009 23:59 - 14 Aug 2009 00:03 #7 by daryn (Darren Mc kenna)
JohnH wrote:

I'm with Daragh on this one.

This last advert for a tank specifically invites interested people to phone or email the man to discuss price etc.
If you can't be bothered to abide by his suggested terms don't come on here whingeing that he hasn't given a price.
The ad was most specific about what is being offered...phone or email the man! No template is necessary.


I totally agree with johnh on this.the seller gives two mobile numbers+email . i think if you are anyway interested in buying a tank that size you would ring the seller anyway. personally i would prefer to talk to the seller because it answers all the questions very quickly without the bs. also i would leave opinions out about the look of the tank. one mans style is another's shi!, for example I like the fish plates, would be nice painted maybe.
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14 Aug 2009 17:41 #8 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
I think templates are necessary. Its a selling forum, people should have a right to know what they are looking to buy. Also there are more and more people joining the site specifically to sell items, while some may feel this is a good thing, I think there are alot of people who simply join the site,sell the item and off with them,never hear from them again. Fair enough but I think there should be a template for sure.
Anyone who is going to buy tanks anyhow will end up ringing and also are likely to ask for a photo in fairness, but a template eliminates alot of the needless questions on the forum or indeed via phonecalls. If Im selling a tank Im going to include details that people will want to know such as:
Age of the tank, general condition,make of the tank, a picture,if used for marine or tropical previously and any other info that may be appropriate (eg lightening,stand,measurements,volume etc).
This would eliminate all the comments,all the remarks and still allow the option of someone contacting the seller directly whether they do or dont put a price on the ad. People are always going to ask questions but an awful lot can be eliminated through basic stats on the items for sale.
Gavin

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14 Aug 2009 22:40 #9 by sheag35 (Seamus Gillespie)
well i have to add my major bug about selling forum, which is when people offer something for sale, and then dont have the courtesy to reply to posts or pm's about it. if you changed your mind and didn't want to sell fair enough just edit the post to say no longer for sale or whatever, just contact those who contacted you...... ok my rant over

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15 Aug 2009 08:48 #10 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
I think this is down to people using this site as a selling tool,they post the ad and probably never post again. Its easy to see those who are newly registered selling something but wont be a regular to the site and hence wont probably log in again. Many of them have the ad on numerous sites and wont update if its sold or not etc..

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