Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)
Hi,
John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.
I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.
With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.
I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.
If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.
I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.
I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.
Thank you
Darragh Sherwin
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The choice really is yours alone whether to go for Marines or F/W, but it might be worth thinking about getting the tank first, then start off with Freshwater and progress (if you feel the desire to) to Marine later.
That way you can 'find your feet' with Tropicals first and - should you make any mistakes along the 'learning curve' (and we all have) they won't be either so expensive (or discouraging) to put right.
But, wait and see what others suggest.
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and i would 100% agree with what john has said their
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Take your time with marines mate there's not much in it but you will need to get the basics right first try out how you are with tropical first and when you feel the time is right go for it you will not look back,
The way i find id best and would say for most people to do it go tropical and do what you can with that keep different types off fish breed them and try planted tanks and so on once you get all this right you will be more then ready for marine and have a good idea off hpw different systems run and if you have any issues you know what to do to sort them.
Also by doing this will save you a LOT off money so that you will not have anything go wrong.
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I'm just curious to know what pleco do you have in cold water, did he survived already a full winter?
If so I want to have one of those too for my goldfish tank

In there I have now a salt-and-pepper cory, really cute, but the temp is already down to 15 degrees, I do not think I can keep him (her?) in there for longer....
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And welcome to the forum
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You probably already know this, but be careful because at warmer temperature the goldfish tend to eat too much, as metabolic rate increases, for the same reason they consume more oxygen and the water hold less oxygen; also at higher temp the toxicity of ammonia is higher (even thou the nitrifying bacteria are more active and may be compensate for that), and bacteria, parasites, fungi are more active.
So as long as you have good water circulation, maybe an areator, and good water quality, your goldies should be fine.
Goldfish can change color in time, in particular when they reach maturity, but also could be a sign of stress or poor water condition!
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