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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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28 May 2008 10:56 #1 by umm (karen baker)
Hi all. Joined the forum a while ago but never introduced myself properly - sorry about that. better late than never eh. Anyway my tank arrived last week, what a job getting it in though. four strong lads giving themselves hernias, by the time they got to the stand which is about 1.2 - 1.3 metres high they almost couldnt lift it up on to it. what a relief now its done.

Filled it slowly over the weekend, very scary looking at all that water(850 litres) just sitting behind 4 sheets of glass, had visions of the tank bursting and me being washed out to sea. lol.

So far so good though. will be ready to start putting the plants in in a couple of weeks and the fish then when i have it cycled. will cycling it with fish food work or is the tank to big for that? dont really want to have ammonia in house with young kids about and dont really want to use fish either. any suggestions ?

sorry for long winded post with 3 young kids my conversations during the day are usually about thomas the tank engine or barbie :laugh: strange how 2 year olds arent interested in things such as filtration and fish compatabilty! hope to post some pics soon . bye for now

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28 May 2008 12:27 #2 by Valerie (Valerie)
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Hi Umm,

Welcome to the forum!

Wow, 850l. - it's a HUGE tank!!! As far as cycling it, I would personally use some hardy fish. Clean dechlorinated water does not contain either ammonia or nitrite, the volume is big and some little fishes wouldn't suffer in there while working for you. The important thing is to monitor your parameters and change some water if needs be. It might help developing the beneficial bacteria a wee bit faster.

Some other people indeed prefer the ammonia route. But it is a dangerous product to have in the house indeed.

There are some products that are supposed to encourage the bacterias' development. Some other people might be able to advise you better on this one.

Do you know what you are going to put in this tank? Be careful, some people might be contacting you about tankbusters they might have. :laugh: :laugh:

Anyway, best of luck with your new project. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to post, I'm sure someone will be able to help you.

Valerie

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28 May 2008 13:04 #3 by Peter OB (Peter O'Brien)
I reckon that the tank is so large that adding a few fish from the start would be ok as the Ammonia released would be so highly diluted.

Get some hardy fish like Danios to start it off. Do a 10% water change every week and slowly increase the stocking after 3 or 4 weeks.

The bigger the tank the easier it is as long as you don't rush things.

Good luck.

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28 May 2008 14:03 #4 by mickeywallace (Michael Wallace Cath Woods)
i would agree with all that has been said here.
do it is not my choice method i use a frozen prawn in a cooking diffuser they are metal container used to allow flavour in to a meal also for tea.

this in the tank will allow the prawn to decay and create ammonia quickly it is quicker than the food method alone. when the ammonia has spiked and is falling to safe level then add fish.

you want the good bacteria to do the work not you, one problem with trying to keep levels safe for fish is that water changes also remove ammonia which the bacteria needs. thus the bacteria colony may not be sufficient to do the job correctly.

the tank will run correctly but may become victium of new tank syndrome later. thus i always suggest that the ammonia be allowed to max then fall before adding fish(hardy). thus given the fish an improving environment.

Mickey Wallace & Cath Woods

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28 May 2008 15:50 - 28 May 2008 15:56 #5 by umm (karen baker)
thanks for the welcome all.yeah it is a big tank ,got it for a great price so we went for it . not looking forward to our future esb bills though!i think we are going with community fish. dwarf cichlids, barbs, loaches, tetras etc. would rather have lge shoals of smallish fish than just a few big ones. had a community tank years ago and loved it. hubby def. wants about 24 tiger barbs. is that to big of a number for them though? trying to decide on substrate sand or pea gravel. am looking forward to getting it up and running .
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28 May 2008 17:16 #6 by Daragh_Owens (Daragh Owens)
Great size tank, bet you will have fun setting that up. I think I would do the same as you have suggested, loads of smaller fish, it could look amazing, proper sized shoals of several fish. 24 Tiger barbs would looking great, but I think I would give them a miss as they are nippy and although with a group that big they will be likely to contain most nipping among themselves, I am sure they will have a go at the others some times. There are lots of other nice barbs and tetras that would look as goo, that are not quite so nippy.

Remember your bottom dwellers too, you could have half a dozen or more small L numbers and a couple of shoals of different corys, good large shoals of 10 or 12.

Your weekly water changes will use more water than a lot of peoples entire tank :-) I trust you will rig up a method that does not involve buckets.

Regarding cycling, I would agree on not using ammonia or any of the commercial products. Either of the othe suggestions are good of the contents of a mature filter could be squeezed in to kick start the bacteria and then use fish to keep up the supplies of ammonia.

Lets know how you decide to stock it and post a few photos or a video.

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28 May 2008 22:09 #7 by umm (karen baker)
yeah we've set up an automatic water change system, wouldnt have the time to change that amount of water every week if doing it with buckets. will post up pics. cheers for now.

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29 May 2008 09:54 #8 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
Thats a fab size tank,defo post pics of it. It will be an amazing community aquarium. Im about the start my 160 litre soon and Im eager to get some tiger barbs as well, but not sure what I can put in with them?

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29 May 2008 10:42 #9 by umm (karen baker)
hi. have been doing a lot of research over last few months about fish compatibility and regards t.barbs i've read that if you keep at least 7 of them and perhaps add them to tank after other fish have settled in, then you should be ok. but i wouldnt add anything with long flowing fins though. i think i'll be ok with my tetras cos i,m gonna have a great big shoal of them so hoping barbs wont bother them. i think they,ll confine their arguments to themselves. im planning on having quite a few plants as well so there will be plenty of hiding places . wish me luck.

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29 May 2008 11:45 #10 by Peter OB (Peter O'Brien)
That is true that the aggressiion is reduced with a big shoal, I personally love tiger barbs and am thinking of getting a big shoal myself.

In such a big tank i'd go for it, they would look amazing.

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29 May 2008 12:13 #11 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
I agree Peter, they look fab, I just dont know if they will suit my 160 litre tank ? Id possibly add a few bronze corys (which should be fine) and maybe an otto. Sorry if it appears Im hijacking the thread Umm..

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