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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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09 Mar 2009 16:14 #1 by Frontosa (Tim kruger)
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Hy all,
Airtricity announced that they are up to 13% cheaper than Esb.Price garantie given up to the 31.01.2010.I think for us as fishkeepers is there a second reason for a changeover-its GREEN ENERGY.Think about it.
Regards,Tim

Midlands - in the heart of Ireland.

Keeping and breeding : Frontosa Blue Zaires , Synodontis Petricola , Tropheus Red Rainbow (Kasanga) , Tropheus Moliro . Regulary fry for sale.
Community tank with P.Kribensis and different livebearers.

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09 Mar 2009 20:47 #2 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
Well Bord Gais are going to be 14% cheaper and up to 24% on the current prices.Theyve committed to keeping 10% cheaper than ESB even after the price drop the regulator enforced on the ESB.(About bloody time too). Add another 2% if you pay by direct debit and another 2% if you are an existing Bord Gais customer. Its simple to change over, just visit WWW.THEBIGSWITCH.IE
Good that at last we might have abit of competition in the energy market even if they are still mainly stateowned.

Gavin

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09 Mar 2009 22:57 #3 by mickeywallace (Michael Wallace Cath Woods)
have to say better the devil you know

plus discount is a limited offer


Airtricity residential tariffs.pdfg

"4: This discount is guaranteed until the 31st January 2010"

bord gais
www.bordgaisenergy.ie/htm/residential_el...er/index.htm?layer=4

"*The discount stated is off the applicable ESB domestic tariff unit rate and applies to the first year's consumption. Thereafter the Bord Gáis Energy standard discount tariff will apply which is guaranteed to be at least 5% below ESB unit rates for years two and three of this offer. Terms and conditions apply."

better to wait and see! any losses they make now will be clawed back later! i wonder who will pay then


and no I don't work for the E.S.B. But i do know when things are to sweet to be wholesome.

Mickey Wallace & Cath Woods

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10 Mar 2009 00:26 #4 by Puggy (Fergus Cooke)
Replied by Puggy (Fergus Cooke) on topic Re:Power
mickeywallace wrote:

and no I don't work for the E.S.B. But i do know when things are to sweet to be wholesome.


Well I do:unsure:

Government are trying to encourage competition in the domestic market, its an EU objective. They have set targets and are able to make financial incentives for new entrants. There are no catchesB) Once the market has stabilised, those incentives will be removed and true competition will exist.

Dont look a gift horse in the mouth...

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10 Mar 2009 11:28 - 10 Mar 2009 12:10 #5 by tm2204 (Thomas Maguire)
Replied by tm2204 (Thomas Maguire) on topic Re:Power
Sorry Mickey but don't agree.

I switched to Board Gais electricity as I can save 12% (plus any regulator enforced discounts, so another 10% --> 22% total current saving) and after the year if I see that the ESB respond to the competition and go cheaper then I may well switch back again.

Switching is done easily online and there are no equipment/supply changes so it's a no brainer.

Irish people have a history of being resistant to changing banks, phone companies, electricity suppliers, etc: This is partly down to the fact we have, until recently, little choice and that changing was often made very difficult. These days with the banks providing switcher services and the ability to switch companies quickly online this is no longer the case and people should take the best deals possible and keep the money in their pockets.

My current bill of €283 with the same unit consumption will be €220 next period. A substantial saving and better off in my pocket than theirs.
Last edit: 10 Mar 2009 12:10 by tm2204 (Thomas Maguire).

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10 Mar 2009 12:37 #6 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
+1 on that front! Definetly better when you can switch back anytime you like. It makes financial sense at the end of the day.

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10 Mar 2009 13:18 #7 by cardinal (Lar Savage)
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Have to agree with tm440,puggy and fishowner on this....I arranged a switch-over to bord gais in my last job (from airtricity actually ) and everything went fine with immediate savings....also I've no connection (pardon the pun :P ) with any power supplier


Lar

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10 Mar 2009 13:48 #8 by Xeon (ioan micu)
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Why did you switch to bord gais from airtricity? They seem to be cheaper no?

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10 Mar 2009 14:16 #9 by cardinal (Lar Savage)
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At the time over 2 years ago....both were only supplying to Industry not domestic.Airtricity made some mistakes with their sums and wrote to all their customers to say they had no alternative but to lash up the price per unit,got in touch with bord gais and found we could make substantial savings.....The ESB were a joke at the time we had moved into a new factory and had requested an upgrade to the meter which they came out to do (we were running moulding machines ect) 1 year later they realise they hadn't been billing us properly and tried to hit us with a bill for €70,000 + to be paid in a lump...:angry: have to say we switched over to Bord Gais and never had a problem since.I've just switched myself over at home to Bord Gais...will see how their claims work out if not will switch again.
Lar

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10 Mar 2009 15:05 #10 by Xeon (ioan micu)
Replied by Xeon (ioan micu) on topic Re:Power
I'm really thinking about switching as well. What whould be the disadvantages of switching?
And in case i'm not happy can i just switch back?

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10 Mar 2009 16:25 #11 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
Switchback only requires 3 weeks notice and no penaltys. As for disadvantages,very few really. If you need a call out for an electrical fault then there is about €100 charge for same from the ESB (as technically Bord Gais are renting the line from ESB as such). But if you are a domestic house then its highly unlikely you will need a call out particularly if you are in a housing estate where the main electrical components will be outside the house ie. the estate itself. (Im not an electricty expert at all so could be wrong!). If you were a farmer then perhaps its may be different etc.. But for estates and generally domestic use,I cant think of any other disadvantages.
One small thing to make sure of, if you do switch try and get a reading of the esb meter as the ESB will send out a close a/c bill and sometimes this is estimated incorrectly. I just bought an ESB box key from the local DIY store,its actually a 4 in one plumbers key and it only cost €3.99.

Gavin

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10 Mar 2009 16:47 #12 by alkiely (alan kiely)
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Was gonna wait till the esb cut the price set think it was 10% or so then when i get a bill she what it is like then ill prob change

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10 Mar 2009 16:51 #13 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
Why bother? Even when they cut it back 10% as part of the enforced regulator approval, Bord Gais have guaranteed to undercut their price still by 10%. After the first year they guarantee to be 5% cheaper than the ESB at which point I would imagine it will be a free for all in terms of energy regulation and competion in the market place. Benefit is there for us all. Also dont think the ESB new rates are coming in until April.
Gavin

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10 Mar 2009 16:57 #14 by alkiely (alan kiely)
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Didnt realise they guaranteed to be 10% cheaper even after the 10% drop and i heard that if you were a gas customer already there was another 2% of aswell is that right

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10 Mar 2009 17:21 #15 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
Yes 2% if you are an existing Bord Gais customer and a further 2% if you pay by direct debit. Not bad at all eh! 14% cheaper on that basis and 24% if you take the present market price. Thats substanial savings over the course of the year esp with the difficult (DEP)recession times.(damn thought that word was banned on here).

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10 Mar 2009 17:22 #16 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
Fishowner wrote:

Well Bord Gais are going to be 14% cheaper and up to 24% on the current prices.Theyve committed to keeping 10% cheaper than ESB even after the price drop the regulator enforced on the ESB.(About bloody time too). Add another 2% if you pay by direct debit and another 2% if you are an existing Bord Gais customer. Its simple to change over, just visit WWW.THEBIGSWITCH.IE
Good that at last we might have abit of competition in the energy market even if they are still mainly stateowned.

Gavin


Actually Al, start reading my posts better! lol

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10 Mar 2009 17:30 #17 by alkiely (alan kiely)
Replied by alkiely (alan kiely) on topic Re:Power
Yeah tink im gonna make the move its to good of any offer not to take.


And i didnt read the other post by the way

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