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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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16 Jan 2010 20:32 #1 by platty252 (Darren Dalton)
You are probably all aware of the water shortage at the moment because of the sprinkling of snow we got.
Salt was used to grit the roads and once the snow was gone that salt then ends up in our water.
The only way to get rid of the salt is osmosis. But that is not done in this country.

When they were running out of salt they start using Ammonia and urea to clear the snow.
This also ends up in our water untill they manage to remove it.
At the moment the levels are safe for humans but not so good for our fish.

You can expect some changes in mains water chemistry so i suggest regular testing before use.
There is also a lot of silt in the water and in some places it is cloudy with fine bubbles.
Let the water sit for 24 hours before use.
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If you need to do water changes i suggest using a dechlorinator that detoxifies Ammonia.
I would also suggest no large water changes and keep an eye on the fish after changing any water.
Adding polyfilter to your filter is a good idea.

Here are some tests i did today in Dublin 12.

Ammonia (NH3/NH4) = 0.5ppm
Nitrite = not tested.
Nitrate = 0ppm
TDS up to 90
PH 7
GH 40ppm (up 20ppm)
KH 30 ppm (up 10 ppm)
Phosphate (PO4) 0.02

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16 Jan 2010 21:07 #2 by wolfsburg (wolfsburg)
Replied by wolfsburg (wolfsburg) on topic Re:Water shortage
Fair play Darren!

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16 Jan 2010 21:14 #3 by Ian (Anthony Ramirez)
Kudos to you Darren. I know this will be appreciated. I'm being aware of this now and will monitor my fish. I do very small % changes every 2 days

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16 Jan 2010 21:25 #4 by Frontosa (Tim kruger)
Hi,
monitored my well water.No changes.Lucky me.;)
Thanks for the warning.
Regards,Tim

Midlands - in the heart of Ireland.

Keeping and breeding : Frontosa Blue Zaires , Synodontis Petricola , Tropheus Red Rainbow (Kasanga) , Tropheus Moliro . Regulary fry for sale.
Community tank with P.Kribensis and different livebearers.

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16 Jan 2010 22:30 #5 by Peteemax (Pete Maxwell)
Thanks for posting and making us aware of this.
Our water is cloudy with fine bubbles in it (Ashbourne).
Due to do a water tomorrow so i'll test the water first.

Pete

Pete Maxwell

ITFS Member

Location: Ashbourne

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16 Jan 2010 22:47 #6 by fourmations (NIall SMyth)
cheers

i was actually going to post questions about this on thurs night
but figured I was being alarmist

my cold water is cut off now (D14)
so i'm having to let hot water sit

i've not been changing really since the snow
but still topping up my open tank

regards

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16 Jan 2010 22:53 #7 by paulbohs (Paul Doyle)
what test kit are you using? I very much doubt 0ppm nitrates. I currently have 25ppm nitrates in Athboy and have tested water in laytown also with 25ppm. would love to know if your nitrate test kit is a reliable brand, in date and how long its open

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16 Jan 2010 23:04 #8 by Daragh_Owens (Daragh Owens)
We have not had water cut off (Dublin 6) but the pressure reduced for a few hours over a coupl of evenings.

My water has been pH 7.0 TDS 70 for years, about 6 months ago the pH increased to 7.3 on an almost constant basis, no change to TDS.

pH last night was 7.8 and TDS 100, I have just tested again, it is now pH 7.9 and TDS 90. At this rate I will be selling South Americans and buying cichlids :-(


Based on comment above I tested for Nitrates, 0ppm as usual here.





Daragh

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16 Jan 2010 23:09 #9 by paulbohs (Paul Doyle)
perhaps meath is 1 of the 6 county councils that used the urea to de-ice roads. like you guys water pressure is poor and reverse osmosis is producing about a fifth of its usual rate

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17 Jan 2010 01:01 #10 by platty252 (Darren Dalton)
paulbohs wrote:

what test kit are you using? I very much doubt 0ppm nitrates. I currently have 25ppm nitrates in Athboy and have tested water in laytown also with 25ppm. would love to know if your nitrate test kit is a reliable brand, in date and how long its open


Hi Paul. There were warnings of both Ammonia and Nitrates in the water supply. Perhaps we are on a different supply. I am in Walkinstown D12.

Test Kits used;
Ammonia - 2 different API. 1 new and 1 nearly six months old
Nitrate - 2 different API. 1 new and 1 nearly six months old
Phosphate - 2 Different tests. Dupla and Salifert
TDS - meter
PH - 3 different meters
GH - 2 different tests. Nutrafin and Hagen
KH - 2 different tests. Nutrafin and Hagen

I think it would be a good idea for people to post there water tests and mention were they are from.

I think most of the country has/had reduced pressure. I had no water at all for a couple of days.
Stupid me had the waste water going to a storage tank in the attic which gets used around the house for toilets and basins. The hose from the RO was deep in the tank and once the water in the mains dropped it created a back syphon and emptied the tank.:blush:

If you are using RO and only use it to slightly soften the water, i would put new sediment and carbon filters in (if needed or more than 3 months old)and bypass the main membrane. No waste water. Use alternative means to alter the water chemistry and remove Ammonia and Nitrate.
If you use RO for making up salt water for a marine tank, Use tap water but remove the Ammonia and Nitrate with resins or chemicals before mixing the salt. Again no waste water.

Dose anyone know what type of salt was used for gritting the roads?

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17 Jan 2010 01:17 #11 by fourmations (NIall SMyth)
platty252 wrote:

Dose anyone know what type of salt was used for gritting the roads?[/quote]

Saxa? ;)

cheers for the info
i will post test results if it helps

rgds

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17 Jan 2010 01:53 #12 by doreilly (Donal O Reilly)
Thanks Darren for the post and the info :)

I have always been very wary with any change to the water system. A few years ago our water supply was knocked off and after I did a water change I learned the hard way and it practically wiped out my entire tank.

Luckily I'm running low on Fluid Filter Medium, waiting on one to be delivered so that has delayed me doing a water change. I read somewhere about people doubling up on their dechlorinator dose when doing water changes as a precaution but not sure if this works?

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17 Jan 2010 23:24 #13 by zig (zig)
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Ph 7 here in Dublin 6 area, just checked. Was Ph 7 before recent weather events so no change here (yet!)pretty much always been Ph 7 here.

Still having water problems though, the reduced pressure means one of the main water tanks in the house isnt refilling at all unless I manually refill it, major pain in the ass.

Will keep an eye on the Ph though before I do any water changes.

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18 Jan 2010 02:26 #14 by paulbohs (Paul Doyle)

Dose anyone know what type of salt was used for gritting the roads?


They are supposed to use mag flakes but not sure if they did as they had the shortage. Mag flakes is very impure version of magnesium chloride. Magnesium chloride hexahydrate in 99.5% purity is used in marine tanks to buffer magnesium but again i'm unsure if their version is hexahydrate.

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