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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

the end of the line

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16 Sep 2010 07:58 - 16 Sep 2010 07:59 #1 by mossy (gavin blanchfield)
must say it saddened me to watch THE END OF THE LINE last nite on rte 1
opened my eyes to the damage we as humans have done to the sea:angry:
went to bed with my heart in my sock:(
we should be ashamed
im not a big fish eater,might have 2 or 3 fish and chips at the seaside a year but no more fish for me

brought a new light to the old saying "THERES PLENTY MORE FISH IN THE SEA"
Last edit: 16 Sep 2010 07:59 by mossy (gavin blanchfield). Reason: spelling

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16 Sep 2010 09:54 #2 by SpiderMonkey (Mark O'Neill)
Thats the reason why i cant watch shows like that Mossy it just piss's me off
And you feel like you just cant do anything to help
i didn't see the show but i read about it in the paper sounds like a nightmare:(

Mark

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16 Sep 2010 10:29 #3 by dar (darren curry)
i have an awful feeling the slippery slope of morals of wats right and wats wrong will creep in here, johnh should hammer a nail on the home page for morals to be hung on before entering

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16 Sep 2010 11:22 - 16 Sep 2010 11:23 #4 by Ma (mm mm)
Replied by Ma (mm mm) on topic Re:the end of the line
Mossy that is just one tiny fraction of a fraction of what is going on.


Keep yer head up mate, when the waters rise, give it 100 years, and the fish will be back in the lead while we scratch to live of the land that is left. 200 Meters or more of a rise

Fish will be on this planet a lot longer than humans, eventually we WILL be wiped out and the fish can run amok. This is just temporary.

Humans exploit everything they can, wait till the cloning kicks in in a big way and add us to the list of exploited for body parts, research, and the most toxic of jobs.

What really gets me about the way they are messing up everything with pollution is the simple fact that when the smallest organisms become saturated with toxins, everything else up the food chain will be affected.

We are also in for some serious outbreaks of disease in the future, very serious if you read whats out there and whats being engineered and the fact that medecine is far behind emerging diseases. The hunt for Money without thought will kill us all


Mark

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16 Sep 2010 11:31 #5 by Ma (mm mm)
Replied by Ma (mm mm) on topic Re:the end of the line
DO Jelly fish rule the world:)

discovermagazine.com/2007/sep/do-jellyfish-rule-the-world


Mark

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16 Sep 2010 23:28 #6 by Xaribdis (Lorcan O' Brien)
I didn't see the programme, but I can guess what the content was about by your reaction. Factory-Ship fishing and heavy trawling is devestating the world stocks in pretty much every part of the globe. I have often had the argument with 'vegetarians' who will still eat fish that they are helping to cause a bigger problem than the methane flatulence emmited by cows. Even at the current rate, the EU over-fishes it's water by a massive scale. Scientists reckon that cod stocks off the North Western coast of Europe have dropped from over 250.000 tonnes to well under 50.000 and are still dropping. In the waters around Scandinavia, they have dropped from over 400,000 tonnes to 5,500 tonnes! The situation is even worse for the Bluefin Tuna who is in such huge demand in China and Japan that the Mediteranean stocks have dwindled to less than 5% of their pre-1960s levels, according to ICCAT, and still dropping into extinction.

As a race we are raping and pillaging the whole planet. It's easy to help save the cute Panda and majestic Tiger, as we can relate to them on land. Where thousands of jobs area at stake, it's a lot harder to get people to change their attitude to fish in the sea. Each person can make their own choice to eat more sustainable stocks, such as pollack, gurnard, mullet, flounder. These fish can be just as tasty as Cod if prepared correctly. I won't ever tell anyone that they can or cannot eat fish (or anything else for that matter), as it is a very healthy alternative to red meat. However, I will actively encourage people to be a little more responsible about the fish they do eat. Even if we only eat half the amount of Cod, Haddock, Salmon ect and eat an alternative fish every other time, it will help. It's easy to say 'I'm only one person', but if enough people changed their attitude, it could make a huge difference. You bever know- maybe even our children and grandchildren may actually get a chance to marvel at the fact that a 6 foot tuna can fit in a 3 inch tin!

Just realised that I'm not even sure if that's what the programme was about! Just felt like a rant!

Lorcan.

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17 Sep 2010 07:33 #7 by Viperbot (Jason Hughes)
Havnt seen this show, so cant comment on that but I Im gonna stick my neck out and ask, has anyone any links to shows or articles that are of a positive vibe??? Seriously, doom and gloom, humans suck, yada yada, lads come on, theres plenty of great work being done out there by individuals and organisations to preserve what we have left. Look, the damage is done. Lets not cry about it and mabey try fixing it. If the numbers quoted above, are in any way accurate, and Im not saying there not, cos how the hell would I know, then one would think these companies, the geatest bean counters in the world, would halt what their doing, let stocks recover and then mabey start over in a more economically viable way. Seems to me like its a new threat every year. First we were all gonna be buried under rubbish cos the landfills are full, then the Ozone layer was to vanish and we were all gonna fry, global warming was gonna coause the gulf stream to dissipate and were all gonna freeze. See the patteren here? Turns out the Ozone layer is showing very promising signs of recovery...happy days. Look, all Im saying is, be sceptical of what you read, especially if the author starts throwing figures at you and tries to blind you with science and glean your info from more than one source. You will find that things are not always as bad as they first seem, though it must be said, sometimes they are.

Jay

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17 Sep 2010 08:49 #8 by dar (darren curry)
mossy wrote:

im not a big fish eater,might have 2 or 3 fish and chips at the seaside a year but no more fish for me


i'd be the same, i'd eat a bit of cod now and then, but shows like this wont put me off, if x ammount are killed each year, the same x will be killed if i give it up, i doubt they'l say "well dar gave up his fish so we'l have to catch x -3" a global ban is needed which i'm in full favor of. and if you want to eat fish pick up a rod

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