Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)
Hi,
John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.
I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.
With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.
I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.
If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.
I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.
I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.
Thank you
Darragh Sherwin
Layout of fish room... which is best
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Are you only having one level of tanks or are there tanks underneath each other?
The size of the tanks will depend on what you are keeping . breeding, but always leave room for another fry tank or that fish you just could not resis and a Q tank too, or more than one of them, one may be tied up with treatments etc.
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- arabesque (Mick Veale)
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A door on the bottom left,
Window that will be blocked up behind the 2 foot in option one.
Planning to heat individual tanks as opposed to heating the room.
Hoping for three tier system.
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- Daragh_Owens (Daragh Owens)
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If there are three layers of tanks, space heating should be the way to go, but it depends on how well insulated the room is, I tried it and Securicor had to deliver the ESB bill, so I am back to individual heating and some space heating.
With that many tanks if you can incorporate a drain or water outlet and water supply you will be very grateful when it come to water changes.
Planning is the most important thing, I can vouch for that because I did none!
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Mine would be an excellent example of how not to do it, Arabesque PM me if you want to visit. I will try and do a plan later.
If there are three layers of tanks, space heating should be the way to go, but it depends on how well insulated the room is, I tried it and Securicor had to deliver the ESB bill, so I am back to individual heating and some space heating.
With that many tanks if you can incorporate a drain or water outlet and water supply you will be very grateful when it come to water changes.
Planning id the most important thing, I can vouch for that because I did none!
Hah...! yeah im planning to insulate, and provide a drain in bottom right.
Above the 6x2x2 will be a 100 gallon header tank for water changes
here's the original link to my plans...
www.cichlidforum.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=164029
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- Daragh_Owens (Daragh Owens)
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...I will try and do a plan later...
Skip that idea, I don't have enough hair left to pull out, if you want to see it in person, no problem.
If there are currently no tanks in the room, take advantage of that and insulate and plumb etc, now, much much easier than when you start moving in tanks. Once insulated you should heat the room. The ESB bill is a major consideration with so many tanks. My last one was €765!
Now you know how important insulation is.
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Take Daragh up on his offer,but allow several hours!!!!
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Have you thought about having some tanks end on in one section...this will enable you to make much more use of the space...
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Fishkeeping the Only way to get wet and wild
currently 25 tanks, and breeding is the aim of everything i keep
location:Limerick
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This stuff is almost to good so you will definitely need a vent in the room or a vent with an extractor.
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I will ask a couple of what might appear to be ‘leading’ questions - for no other reason than to try to give you the 'benefit' of some of my mistakes so far...
Are the room dimensions you quote exact? I did a wonderful plan of how I intended to make the staging for the tanks, then realised that I had forgotten to allow space for not only the staging uprights but also the small amount of 'allowance' I would need to be able to put in/take out the tanks, should the need arise – not to mention the thickness of the insulation material, in my case I want to use 1” thick polystyrene sheeting (Aeroboard) as I cannot unfortunately afford Platty’s suggested Kingspan, much as I would like to.
Another problem I am wrestling with right now is how to access the electricity sockets, there are two in that room, each will – sadly – end up behind a tank! This can be easily overcome by plugging a short extension lead into each but should the necessity arise to take out the plugs for the leads it will mean having to remove the tank in front of the socket. Sadly I don’t have sufficient width in my room to be able to set the staging far enough from the wall to allow access behind the tanks concerned but even if I had I would really like the staging to be standing against the wall for stability.
So, in a very roundabout way I am attempting to wonder if, in your planning, you have been more practical than I had been?
I can see how each of your designs has it’s own merit and will be most interested to find out which one you finally go for.
From a breeding point of view I would be disinclined to totally block out the window. That so many species fish are stimulated by dawn to trigger off spawning is a fact which ought to be considered by you, for myself the window in my room faces North-West so does not receive any direct sunlight until almost the final part of the day…my shed proves to be quite an effective ‘screen’ earlier on in the late afternoon/evening. Unfortunately artificial lighting cannot successfully re-create that of the dawn, not yet anyway.
Good luck with your project, it would be nice to hear how it goes – blow by blow, so to speak.
John
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John, sorry i only saw this post now.
Well things are progressing, slowly, but definitely progressing.
To cover your questions first... no the room wasnt exactly measured to scale.
Ive got roughly 9.5 feet by 9 feet but honestly i dont think any of these are going to work.
Ive got a new batch of drawings that im trying to work out the merit of.
Also hoping to take some of the other suggestions on board and intstall a small sink and worktop along with shelving. However ive also decided to take off the door and hang it differntly so that it opens up away from the fish room which will give me more room.
Ive got my plumbing job done in the attic, moving a header tank but now im planning to get the electrics in first before putting in the insulation. I'll add a second vent to the room to allow for good air circulation and pull the tanks out a few inches from the walls.
I found a great link that in my opinion is the best resource that ive found
www.tedsfishroom.com/wp/fishroom
has a great layout and shows how he did everything...
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During a power cut you can use something like a a gas heater to keep the room at the minimum level and battery air pumps.
what filter system are you going to use. some thing like a compressor and sponge type system or some thing more technical.
Mickey
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