Shocked.....

ipcompto wrote:

Pretty disappointing response to the whole idea about the original thread s usual it has gone down the crapper.....instead of being positive and constructive its turned into another bitching session.....if you guys are so passionate about your hobby then why cant you see the point i made about supporting independent shops run by guys that care and have a direct input into helping fishkeepers.Everyone complains about not being able to get help or advice and they are sick of being served by kids who know nothing......well the shops i have mentioned are those kind of shops.As are we.Whether you like us or not is your own business that is not the issue.When those shops disappear then no doubt you will all come up with the same epitaph......'Jazus lads twas a great shop i used to love going there to chat to the fella for hours after i bought all me stuff on the internet.....i wonder how he pays his bills....'

now if you cant focus on the issue then this conversation has failed......the issue is why do people spend money in superstores and garden centers and on the internet when there are shops out there that work extremely hard at what they do in the interests of the hobby in general.......i am nearly 17 years dealing with the public and i haven a massive personal fish collection that hundreds of people get to see a week...it cost me a fortune to keep this going and my accountant thinks i am crazy for wasting so much money doing it.....i do it because i love it and i enjoying showing people stuff.......and opinions and slagging wont change that for me.....anyone that comes to us and many many many do will vouch for that....you check out all the reviews have on facebook look at the thank yous and positive unedited feedback.....we get gifts and presents cakes and chocs every other day of the week.....thats more important than saving a euro....two customers came in yesterday i set their tanks up on tick cos they were skint......i do that when i can.......what other shop would do that?.........if i have to argue a simple point like this then we are all doomed.......anyway im glad i give you stuff to get your teeth into at least it adds a bit of excitement to the forum ....even though that is not the intention......right off to work i go........got a lot of cheap filters to send out from my crap website.......i noticed not too many were sold to forum members......even though they are cheaper than ebay and zooplus......strange that......

have a nice day if anyone needs any help please mail me i would be delighted to continue to be of service.....

Cheers
Ian

Ian, if you had just come on to commiserate on the demise of yet again, another decent business going closing down, it would have remained a positive if unfortunate thread, however, your comments re those who weren't visible in their condolences condemned them to apathy and lack of support, that is what annoyed everyone and therefore, you ONLY have YOURSELF to blame.

Kev.

Edit: This has now made it doubly difficult for anyone to feel for Andy in text here because to do so would make it look like it was an afterthought or that to do so now would be because of pressure.

Hi there just saw your post.....i think i can help here.It is very important to note that when you buy RO water you are buying it for its purity and not its PH.Purity is one thing PH is another.

For instance if a shop aerates its RO water then the PH will climb because of the oxygen levels because the RO does not have the capacity to buffer itself.Furthermore if a shop leaves its RO water standing exposed to air then the RO water will tend to become acidic because it will absorb carbon dioxide from the atmosphere and the PH will progressively drop.

It is up to the customer to set the Ph for his own use unless you tell the shop what you require but even then the Ph will vary this is the downside of RO water.So i would not blame the shop because RO water is too unstable.....they are selling pure water....with a variable ph.
Depending then on aquarium conditions the longterm Ph is what most matters....
Hope this helps.....we make 2000 litres of RO a day......it can be trying sometimes.....
Cheers
Ian

I hope this is a positive contribution....

I have heard alot of talk the past while regarding supporting local shops and keepin your money in the country but yet where do these shops get their stock from??... I've seen lots of foreign shipments coming in so whatever about saying support local shops but to say keep your money in the country is a bit hypocritical to me... are we not allowed do the same?
Support irish businesses yet were not to support each other within the hobby? To us it is a hobby and not a business so appropriate respect to all of us as a hobbyist is due. We all spend a little here and there but not only in 1 shop so that in itself is support regardless of where the shipment came from