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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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24 Nov 2008 22:15 #1 by duzzy1 (Martin Kennedy)
heres a quick little video i took this morning and it includes the afore mentioned " zebra plec " .

also included is one of my pair of royal farlowella .... and also my other plec ( an id for which would be great )

hope yee like the vid . and please ignore the festivum who just loves to be in the spotlight ... came straight across the tank the minute he saw the camera lol

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24 Nov 2008 22:31 #2 by Andrew (Andrew Taaffe)
great vid, and a fantstic thread title. I'll leave the naming to the serious pleco fans

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24 Nov 2008 22:50 #3 by Orca (Eoin Walsh)
That zebra pleco looks great.Give us more.

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24 Nov 2008 22:56 - 24 Nov 2008 22:57 #4 by Daragh_Owens (Daragh Owens)
The first one looks like a Panaque, L002, most likely. The second one is harder to tell, there are alot that look similar, I would guess L006 or L009.

Excellent video.



Daragh
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24 Nov 2008 22:57 #5 by duzzy1 (Martin Kennedy)
cheers guys .. thats the purpose of the vid really ..... wanna hear ( or read i suppose ) ppl's verdicts on whether or not it is zebra plec L046 .

and would love to get an i'd on the other plec too

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24 Nov 2008 22:59 #6 by derek (Derek Doyle)
hi duzzy, it looks like either panaque or peckoltia species. def. not zebra 046. daragh owens or platy could prob. give you a correct id.

30 tanks specialise in african cichlids, angelfish and various catfish

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24 Nov 2008 23:00 #7 by duzzy1 (Martin Kennedy)
not too sure abut him being a panaque ...... his colours are a defite black andright white ( maybe the vid didn'y show it too well

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24 Nov 2008 23:07 #8 by Daragh_Owens (Daragh Owens)
The first one is most definitely not L046. Picture of L046 below, or the one in your avatar, the colour of your fish is totally wrong for L046 and thestripes are going the wrong way.



The nose/face of the first plec in your video makes it harder to ID, though I am 90% sure that it is L002, other possibilities would be the flash panaque L204 or Leopard Frog L134, but I think either of them are very unlikely.

The second plec looks to be displaying stress colours - not unusual for a fish just coming out of his cave to feed. I think it will be very hard to tie down an accurate ID without photos from the side and a shot of his teeth (when he is on the glass) and also an idea of his adult size. Of the two options I suggested he looks more like L009, but I don't think they are regularly available and therefore it maybe that he is more likely to be L006 which regularly turn up.


Daragh

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24 Nov 2008 23:17 #9 by derek (Derek Doyle)
i agree that the nose /face has a hypancistris look. an other possibility is L199 hyp. funuculas.

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24 Nov 2008 23:18 #10 by duzzy1 (Martin Kennedy)
arrrggghhhhh damn ..... no harm in dreaming i guess

thanx guys for the input

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24 Nov 2008 23:31 #11 by LimerickBandit (Donal Doran)
I see my clown loach sticking his head in too :)

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24 Nov 2008 23:41 #12 by duzzy1 (Martin Kennedy)
yeah ... the 2 of them are in fine form buddy ....

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25 Nov 2008 00:33 #13 by platty252 (Darren Dalton)
Great vid. I like your festivum.
IMO the first pleco looks like one of the Hypancistrus. It seems to have that head shape. Possibly a young L33. Did the shop not have a name on it?
As Daragh pointed out the second pleco is sowing stress colouring which makes it hard to tell. A lot of plecs will drop their pattern only to reveal a totally different pattern underneath when they are stressed or change from a dark place to a well lit place.
Do you have any clear photos of the plecos?

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25 Nov 2008 01:14 #14 by Daragh_Owens (Daragh Owens)
I thought of a juvenile L333, but from the video I thought that the fish looked too big still to have that juvie pattern, they get more and more gold stripes as the get older and end up looking like the photo below, but it is hard to tell the size from teh video, what size is the fish from nose to tail?




Daragh

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25 Nov 2008 01:37 #15 by platty252 (Darren Dalton)
I was trying to figure out myself the size of the pleco. Judging by the size of the coconut shell and the gravel seems to be a bit bigger than dorset pea i am assuming it is a small pleco. That's why i think it could be a juv. L33

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25 Nov 2008 01:52 #16 by Daragh_Owens (Daragh Owens)
Hard to believe he will look like the bigger guy above one day, but yes L333 is a strong possibility, depending on size.

Platy252 you a "3" short again :blink:

Daragh

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25 Nov 2008 13:16 #17 by serratus (Drew Latimer)
Yeh hard to tell.... 1st pos. Flash Panaque L204??? 2nd Peckolita brevis?????

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25 Nov 2008 17:57 #18 by platty252 (Darren Dalton)
Daragh_Owens wrote:

Platy252 you a "3" short again :blink:

Daragh


Whoops:blush: I cant even blame it on the keyboard since i did it more than once.
Daragh you are short a "t" in platty :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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25 Nov 2008 20:41 #19 by duzzy1 (Martin Kennedy)
he may not be a zebra .... but i think he's dead cool

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25 Nov 2008 20:42 #20 by duzzy1 (Martin Kennedy)
dang ... the link to the photo didn't come up .... sorry if that last comment sounded harsh ... there was supposed to be a pic attached

s467.photobucket.com/albums/rr32/duzzy1_...rent=25112008098.jpg

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25 Nov 2008 20:43 #21 by duzzy1 (Martin Kennedy)
ok this post is only cos i'm on 98 and wanna break the 100 mark
so there will be another pointless one next

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25 Nov 2008 20:44 #22 by duzzy1 (Martin Kennedy)
and here it is .... woohooooo ..... not a fry anymore

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25 Nov 2008 21:10 #23 by LimerickBandit (Donal Doran)
Well done Duzzy your a puppy :blush:

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25 Nov 2008 21:13 #24 by duzzy1 (Martin Kennedy)

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25 Nov 2008 21:31 #25 by platty252 (Darren Dalton)
What size is the pleco?

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25 Nov 2008 21:38 #26 by duzzy1 (Martin Kennedy)
he's about 2 1/2 inches nose to tail

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25 Nov 2008 21:44 #27 by nips147 (Eamonn Mcguffin)
excellent vid i think your fish are posers anyway the mystery plec's house,is it a coconut shell or something like that,where did you pick it up would like to get one for my plec

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25 Nov 2008 21:48 #28 by Valerie (Valerie)
Replied by Valerie (Valerie) on topic Re:OK guys .... put on your Plectacles for me
The coconut shell is a dead easy one to make. Get a coconut in the supermarket, cut it in 2, remove the flesh and boil it for a little while. Cut a little door with the likes of a Dremmel for example and ... in your tank it goes :-).

Hope this helps.
Valerie

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25 Nov 2008 21:48 #29 by duzzy1 (Martin Kennedy)
i actually bought it in an LFS and it was covered in moss at the time ..... the plec kinda did some re-decorating bofore moving in ...... but i often find him and the 2 clown plecs in it at the same time

as far as i know they are readily available , and as a matter of fact i have seen them in a few shops since buying mine

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25 Nov 2008 22:41 #30 by platty252 (Darren Dalton)
Duzzy i tried to get a picture of a Hypancistrus sp. L333 at 2 1/2" but i couldn't coax one out of its cave. Maybe later. The pattern is different at this size so i guess that rules out L333.
The problem with not knowing what it is is feeding it. Not so much young plecos since most need some greens in their diet when they are young. Even the carnivores. But when they get older they need the right food.
You could feed Tetra tabimin (although your festivum will try eat them all) and twice a week some meaty foods like bloodworm, brine shrimp etc.
The next time you are in your LFS ask them what the pleco came in as.

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