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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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21 Mar 2010 20:37 #1 by lestat (Stuie)
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i just got 2 gold severums from a shop as a present and they were introduced into my tank as a surprise but i noticed a sort of black nearly cottony substance on one of them,i asked the shop where they were bought and they said it was ok but im not convinced,could it be a disease?? the other one has it but only a tiny bit,its on both body and fins,they are acting as normal doh,it hasn affected there behavior,any ideas?? thanks

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21 Mar 2010 20:43 #2 by Viperbot (Jason Hughes)
Sounds like it mabey some sort of fungal infection? Someone with a bit more knowledge on aquatic infections may have to weigh in here. Weird one.

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21 Mar 2010 20:46 #3 by lestat (Stuie)
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yeah i googlin it and not really gettin much on it t be honest,and its head wreckin cuz i have 2 lovely wild severum in der too so i dont want them to get it thanks jay

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21 Mar 2010 20:48 #4 by Viperbot (Jason Hughes)
Do you have a spare tank you can use to quarantine them till you get it under control? Or mabey get a buddy to hold onto the wild ones till things settle down.

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21 Mar 2010 20:54 #5 by lestat (Stuie)
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yeah man im goin t see if my mate will take d wilds nice 1, iv still only d one tank at d moment runnin,i got a rio 180 and i have d rio 400 in storage untill iget the hang of this fish keepin buisness nice 1 man

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21 Mar 2010 20:58 #6 by Viperbot (Jason Hughes)
No worries mate, best of luck with them. Sorry I couldnt be of more help to ya.

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21 Mar 2010 21:02 #7 by lestat (Stuie)
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cheers jay nice 1 well appreciated man.
kind regards,
stuie

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21 Mar 2010 21:12 #8 by lestat (Stuie)
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anyone with experience on fungal infections?? could you please give advice on what type of treatment is best used ?? thanks stuie

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21 Mar 2010 21:49 #9 by Viperbot (Jason Hughes)
Hey Stuie,

If it is indeed a fungal infection, Pimafix from API is pretty effective. This stuff is an antibacterial aswell and shouldnt affect your filter. I used it to treat a fungal infection a while back and it worked a treat. That said, the symtoms you describe are a first for me, and I would be cautious about treating it when not exactly sure of the what it is. However, if you have no luck getting a positive ID, then I would go ahead and try and see what happens. Ive tried searching for ya myself and Im yet to find a reference. If I stumble acrosss something ill let ya know asap.

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21 Mar 2010 21:54 #10 by cardinal (Lar Savage)
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introduced into my tank as a surprise


I hate that type of suprise...:angry: ..Whats wrong with a gift voucher...?????

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21 Mar 2010 21:58 #11 by stretnik (stretnik)
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Any chance you can post a pic or two with as much detail as possible, it'll make things easier.

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21 Mar 2010 22:02 #12 by Viperbot (Jason Hughes)
cardinal wrote:

introduced into my tank as a surprise


I hate that type of suprise...:angry: ..Whats wrong with a gift voucher...?????


LOL :laugh: Ditto.

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22 Mar 2010 00:16 #13 by Tetra (Tetra)
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Sounds like an external fungus infection but a picture would tell us allot more.I think I treated with protizin for this and found it very effective. I'd tell your mate to keep an eye on the wild fish as external fungus infections are spread easily hope this helps.
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22 Mar 2010 00:30 - 22 Mar 2010 00:44 #14 by Ma (mm mm)
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Hi matey.

I have read they can get black spot disease not curable or contagious as snails and birds needed for life cycle (Doubtable)

Black ich o too much colour promoting food can cause this also I have read but not as a growth. If they suffer from a fungal infection it will be appearent in their behaviour soon enough. As with all meds, be careful of oxygen deprivation.
Fungal or black ich probably

Melafix is good for fungal infections. again watch o2 levels when using


Make sure they are not just blackened battle wounds


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22 Mar 2010 00:44 #15 by Ma (mm mm)
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Have you got salt in your tank. Severums have no problem with some salt and some fungus don't like it too much, try a salt heat treatment, cheap and safe enough for fish tank and filter if done correctly.

Make sure you use recommended salt dosage if you do go down this road. With heat as always up your aeration.

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22 Mar 2010 10:28 #16 by lestat (Stuie)
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yeah ill put some pics up in a few thanks
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22 Mar 2010 10:53 #17 by Viperbot (Jason Hughes)
That should help a lot bro. Do you know how to post them up?

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22 Mar 2010 15:23 #18 by Viperbot (Jason Hughes)
Hi Stuie,

I posed this question on a dedicated SA Cichlid forum that I frequent and the general consensus is that it is a fungal infection called Cotton Wool Disease. This usualy sets in after the skin has been attacked by a parasite like Ich or after a bout of Finrot, Ulcers or Lesions. This can sometimes be confused with Columnaris Disease as the symtoms are similar. Forget the salt/heat treatment. This can lead to problems down the line with osmotic pressure. If you feel you must use a salt treatment I would suggest that you give them each a saltwater dip for no more than two or three mins each. You need to attack this fungus with meds as soon as possible. Try an antifungal as mentioned above and you can also try treating the affected area by swabbing it with iodine. This illness is pretty common in fish that have been kept in less than ideal circumstances for a protracted period of time and is usually the result of corpes and food items being left to decay in tanks. This affliction may well be somthing else, as I could only give them as much info as we have here, however, given the symtoms you describe and the speed at which it set in I would go ahead and treat it accordingly. I hope this helps man, best of luck.

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22 Mar 2010 15:36 #19 by lestat (Stuie)
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nice one i went back to the shop an they wouldn do anythin about it,so i strongly advise dont buy from a shop in dublin 22village area unless its the fish bowl in balgaddy,im goin t post up some pics anyway thanks man

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22 Mar 2010 15:40 #20 by Viperbot (Jason Hughes)
No worries, shame they woudnt accomodate you, very bad form indeed. Anyway, vote with your feet and steer clear of the place, hurts them the most.

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22 Mar 2010 15:47 #21 by lestat (Stuie)
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the quality of pic isn d best sorry
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22 Mar 2010 15:48 #22 by lestat (Stuie)
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22 Mar 2010 15:50 #24 by lestat (Stuie)
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hers d last one sorry again about d quality
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22 Mar 2010 16:10 #25 by Ma (mm mm)
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Hard to actually see the growths.

Is the growth fuzzy or just black bumps,

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22 Mar 2010 16:12 #26 by lestat (Stuie)
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yeah sorry about the quality mark,its a furry cottony type

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22 Mar 2010 16:22 - 22 Mar 2010 16:25 #27 by Ma (mm mm)
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A furry cotton type of growth is usually fungus, if they were just slimy bumps it might have been black ich but fish are usually already ill if they are infested with ich and will behave accordingly and you say they seem fine behaviour wise, so I doubt ich.

You could try melafix antifungal from API. It should not harm the fish or filter if used as per instructions in the medication package.

Plenty of aeration while in use and afterwards as instructions may say when finished use activated carbon & water changes to remove the anitfungal after treatment.

If that does not kill the growths you can then look at something else. try to leave a week to 10 days or more between medical treatments and always remove them totally from the water after treatment.

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22 Mar 2010 16:32 #28 by lestat (Stuie)
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cheers mark,ill pop down to seahorse aquariums tomorrow and see if kealan has it in stock,thanks for d advice you an jay were real help, a1 man, thanks

Stuie

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22 Mar 2010 16:35 #29 by Ma (mm mm)
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Naybod matey.


Hope it works out.


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22 Mar 2010 18:07 #30 by Viperbot (Jason Hughes)
Just a heads up on the different meds. Melafix is great for ulcers, finrot and mouth fungus. Pimafix tagets cotton like fungus and internal and external bacterial infections. Might even be worth picking up both. Theres a bit of hype these days about stuff called Jungle Fungus but I havnt seen it around or used it myself. Also, be sure to remove any activated carbon you may have in your filter as this will remove the meds. Good luck,

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