cant decide what to do HELP

ok lads this might go on for a bit so sorry befor i start:L

havent really being on much lately as a lot going on with the new job and xmas and new baby due any day now

well ill start anyway

i have being hit my de planted bug hard as i setup my 180 a few months ago and went hell for leather with iot as in the subsrate and CO2 and that and have to say it is really coming alone very very well growth is great and a few spawnings also but im thinkin the tank is to small now it is very very very heavily planted (ill add photos to the tanks thread later)

i used to see my vision 260 as my main tank but now im starting to change my mind as the planted tank is gettin all my time and is now my main tank

the thing is i wanna go BIGGER as say a rio 400 or a vision 450 but will have it as a planted tank as would need t5 lights and that

so i am thinkin should i sell my 260 and get a rio 400 or a vision 450 or even a clearseal??

i am thinkin off actually sellin both the 26-0 and the 180 but should i buy the new tank first to move everything that is in the 180 and the put the 180 for sale?

the subrate i have in the 180 is the oliver knott and i want to keep this subsrate but it cost me over 100 euro for the 180 so to fill the bigger tanks with it would just be crazy any ideas about this???

wat is the best thing to do i need help with this as being thinkin about it for a good while now and can not make my mind up also wat feet are the big tanks say the rios 400 and the vision 450 and the clearseal?

any input would be great thanks lads

sean
(just a quick snap off the 180)
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Sean i think most fishkeepers have at one time or another being in this situation, we setup a tank thinking YEA this is it but as soon as it is complete the auld mind starts wandering of to think of the next BIGGER tank.
I done the same myself started off with a 240 litre Jewel and when converting over to a marine tank changed to a bigger 440 litre tank on the advice of another fishkeeper. And to be honest it was the best advice i ever got as i was going to retro-fit all the equipment on the 240 litre tank which would of looked crap and volume wise i was so limited.

If i were in your shoes i would go for the biggest tank i could fit and afford but with a sump, a sump tank has so many advantages over a standard tank, the Clearseal tanks are definitely a nice bit of kit and as you already know sometimes there are a few nice ones for sale on here.

I know it will be a juggling act if you are selling a tank and buying another tank and trying to organise collection and deliverly dates so you can transfer stock & susbrate etc. but it will be well worth it in the long term.


I hope you get sorted either way and congratulations and best of luck with the new baby on the way.

Happy xmas

Jeff

Have to agree with Gerry, get the biggest tank you can get. Keep your old tanks as quarantine and breeder tanks, with Jan sales round the corner you may even get two new tanks for the price of one.

sorry lads only seen this now yeah i am going to go for it after puttin the 260 for sale and im on de look out for a big tank as i said a rio 400 or vision 450

when i find something ill set it up move everything from my 180 and then put the 180 for sale as i will have no need to keep them as i have a few tank for other bits and bobs and quarantine in the fish room thanks lads hopefully everything works out now

sean

so went for it lads

went and ordered a brawn new 5 foot 500L clearseal

have to say i really cant wait for it to come its like a life time away (next wendesday) :L:L

anyway ill do a tread off it step by step when i start to set it up

thanks lads

sean

LOADS OF PHOTOS.!!


And well done on the tank its a beauty


Mark

Sean,
Well done.
What are the dimensions on your new 5 foot Clearseal.
I also just ordered a custom build Clearseal due to the narrower width tank I wanted to fit in the space I have planned for it. I've ordered a 5' x 15"wide x 26"high in BEECH wood and with four doors and a split hood flap of 5" at the front so I can feed the fish without lifting up the lights attached at the same time..
Should hope to take delivery in the next couple of weeks.

Do post pictures when it arrives. I will do the same.

Greg

thanks mark

yeah i will be posting loads off photos

im not going to be happy when taken the 180 apart but i am going to be moven everything from the 180 to the clearseal theres not going to be near enough plants so ill have to look around and see if i can get as many as i can for it

the plan is to have it FULLY LOADED with plants and red moor wood

im moven live stock also so ill have

pair off blue angles

12 blue rams

4 SAE

3 kribs

2 whiptails

and all i will be addin to the list when i move them to the 500L is a group off discus and a pair off altums and pair 1 or 2 male kribs cause i think i have all females so hopefully that will be enough dont want it to be over stocked

if there is any pther ideas off wat to stock in it would love to here wat yous think

sean

Greg i havent a clue mate i think it is 5x2x2 but could be wrong it is the standard 5 foot fresh water one with the stand and has the gap in the middle i just love the stand on these think it makes the tank thats y i went for it good idea on the lil flap but i dont mind on mine as it will have the ballast units so the cable lenth on them in loads ill have it neat and tipy but leave a bit extra so when i life the hood the 2 t5 that are on the front part will have enough cable to lift up

wat are u planning on stockin mate

sean

hi sean congrats on the new tank be like xmas morning again but only for you haha love getting a new tank

just one thing that i see you want to do that i did before and did not work out
ive said in the past its ok to have kribs in with rams which alot of people say no way and me and you have done it and no probs. BUT if you have a breeding pair of kribs which i did at one stage the rams wont be able for them and that go's for most community fish the kribs will chase chase and chase till they get a bite in and their will be so much stress in the tank, that the dreaded (WS) will just be around the corner. just a little heads up what happend to me with breeding kribs in a non aggressive tank. and you do not want this in your new dream

jeff sound mate think ill get one male then and take out one female and but both off them into another tank and give them a ago off breeding them or would it be ok to put in this tank till they pair off then move them wat do u think would be best mate

thanks for the headed up ya just saved me from a load off hassle

anyone ever hear anything about SAE harrassin discus to feed off there slim coat???????

sean

Sean,
I'm doing an Amazon type setup . I have 5 discus in another tank and looking to move them over to the new one and expand the stock. I really do believe as they say that the Discus is the King of fishes.

Greg

with out any question top dog

yeah Greg they are indeed ill look into gettin my hand on some ill have to keep on eye out for them

thanks

sean

sean if it was me i would put one male in and see which female gets to spawn first and watch to see if their is a pair guarding a cave or pot ect. and then take that pair out at the same time into their own tank with their eggs but dont worry if you dont get the eggs, like if you cant move wherever they are, as i know they are easy to breed once the start they will keep going and be great parents, if you only sus the breeding pair after seeing fry the fry will make it if you get them in with parents or very quickly after you catch the parents thats what worked for me

RE: sae their known for when they get bigger to attach to angels and discus, but get them small and pass them on when their to big which will be a while

sound mate ill do that so

about the SAE i have 2 thar are about 2inch and 2 very small ones all are in with angles at the mo and nothin like that is happen at all for now anyway

sean

think your ok for now with them being that size but its when they get bigger and their is not enough algae or food to keep their minds busy, not 100% sure when they start to be a pain maybe someone else can shine a light on this

Vision wrote:

sound mate ill do that so

about the SAE i have 2 thar are about 2inch and 2 very small ones all are in with angles at the mo and nothin like that is happen at all for now anyway

sean

I Have a fully grown SAE in with a pair of Angels and he doesn't bother with them. Then last year I got a pair of Discus and the F**ker wouldn't leave them alone. Sadly I lost both Discus due to a bacterial infection of some kind and I'm thinking the stress was prob a big part of it.

what size do the SAE be at fully grown i dont want to chance it if it is going to stress them

i should be ok with the 2 small ones but they other 2 i dunno even tho they are not going near the angles now at the mo

thanks lads

sean

sae fully grown i think is 5 and a half inches

so i have a good while befor then haha

thanks mate

sean