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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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27 Sep 2012 23:37 #1 by jwm (sean sean)
Am i wrong or not. Most fishy sites now have alot o marine tanks been broken down and moved on(i would imagine cost is the major factor). When the water charges come in will the hobby struggle to survive. What will that mean for the LFS. I have runnin at the min 1600litres between the different tanks. Some require 20/30litre a day change all require decent change at least once a week. When the charges come in twill be very hard to convince wifey that they are a necessity, water barrels will play apart but how many hobbiest are plannin a down scale.


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28 Sep 2012 00:51 #2 by JohnH (John)
Replied by JohnH (John) on topic Sign of the times
I can see this becoming a definite problem for all of us - mercifully all my water changes are done with either water from the ground or from the sky, but that doesn't mean it's free, it still has to be pumped up from 80meters below ground with a 3/4 horsepower motor and the rain water has to be filtered after it, too, is pumped indoors.
But my heart goes out to members who will have to pay via the dreaded meter.
I remember years ago, when I lived in England and was forced into having a meter by the water company there trying to find a way to recycle water taken from the tanks using all manner of media, but primarily Carbon and Zeolite. Not being much in the way of a scientist I cannot really say whether this was particularly successful but I did it, and used the resulting water (after being held in vats for a week both aerated and filtered) and fish survived. Stocking levels were also nowhere near as high as I have now though and that might have had a bearing on the matter too (over to IGM for an assessment).
But, this hardly is of any help for our saltwater comrades (by that I mean saltwater keeping comrades). I feel for them even more!

Any ideas, anyone?

John

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28 Sep 2012 00:56 #3 by JohnH (John)
Replied by JohnH (John) on topic Sign of the times

Am i wrong or not. Most fishy sites now have alot o marine tanks been broken down and moved on(i would imagine cost is the major factor). When the water charges come in will the hobby struggle to survive. What will that mean for the LFS. I have runnin at the min 1600litres between the different tanks. Some require 20/30litre a day change all require decent change at least once a week. When the charges come in twill be very hard to convince wifey that they are a necessity, water barrels will play apart but how many hobbiest are plannin a down scale.


john


Although John's very pertinent post doesn't really belong in this section there isn't a more appropriate one right now to move it to so we'll leave it here.

JohnH

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28 Sep 2012 07:43 #4 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
It could be part of the sign of the times, but part human nature.

In the UK, many places have had water meters for donkeys years.

The fact we had a period of financial boom, and then a financial collapse are things that contribute to the effect being a sign of the times.

But, the reality is still that fish keeping has become cheaper over the years anyway.

The human nature side that sometimes comes in is having to have the latest fad, and then finding out that doing something for the wrong reason simply doesn't work out.

WRT water changes, there are ways of water re-cycling (and that is what is done anyway).....there are advantages, and disadvantages.
Most of my knowledge I have in filtration systems came about when I kept marines as a youngster and was looking at ways of minimising the very costly water changes........yes, the systems worked and kept the fish alive and healthy, but very unstable and the fish never really turned out to be as stunning as the systems with regular water changes.

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