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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

Ottos caught up to no good?

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28 Jan 2010 03:40 - 03 Feb 2010 13:19 #1 by Markku (Markku)
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Have my Ottos got a taste for slime coat?
Video evidence>

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28 Jan 2010 10:13 #2 by arabu1973 (. .)
Its possible, some of them do, i had one otto in the discus tank that was eating the slime from the discus so i had to take him out:angry:

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03 Feb 2010 10:45 #3 by Gavin (Gavin)
they're famous for doing it to discus.

dont make me come over there.

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03 Feb 2010 13:16 #4 by Markku (Markku)
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It is only one Otto, little bugger, and only for Albino corys and my bristlenose plecs.

Got up Sat morning and misses said "Hey look your otto is cleaing your Pleco"


Eh, that's not cleaning I thought, desliming my bristlenose pleco, n the plec just sitting there letting him he was.


Netted into the shrimp tank, ok there? Wont eat my shrimp will he, well suck them to death?

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03 Feb 2010 13:24 - 03 Feb 2010 13:25 #5 by JohnH (John)
He shouldn't get the opportunity, any Shrimps I have will move away from larger (than them) fish very sharpish!!!
Other than the Macrobrachium, which use their claws to 'remind' their Ancistrus tank-mates who is (are) boss!

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03 Feb 2010 14:01 - 03 Feb 2010 14:02 #6 by Markku (Markku)
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ta mate, moved em out, i dont trust em.

i do have 6 panda corys in there will they also scoff em, have them in there for pop control cos i figure they'll scoff up the fry, will they eatadults in heavily planted trigon, lots of space n cover?


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03 Feb 2010 14:11 - 03 Feb 2010 14:12 #7 by JohnH (John)
Honestly, I personally have never witnessed any Corys even trying to eat Shrimps...there is always a chance that they might manage to catch a newly-released Shrimp, but I would doubt even that, had a breeding colony of Cherry Shrimps in with a brood of Paleatus and a couple of adult Caudomaculatus and they never gave them a second glance - but I know Daragh Owens keeps Corys in his Shrimp tanks so perhaps he'll enlighten us both.

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03 Feb 2010 14:15 #8 by Markku (Markku)
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Have Cheery shrimp, I wangt to add a couple of other types but I don't want them wiping each other out, are there another species of shrimp I cna add to the Cherry chaps?


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03 Feb 2010 14:26 #9 by JohnH (John)
Daragh has a list of species which can be kept together, I'll see if I have a copy of it here somewhere.

Basically many of the Shrimps available to us are actually 'modified' versions of one or two wild species and so are more likely to interbreed with, than kill one another.

If you aren't too worried about getting interbred offspring then you'll be OK with most, but be warned, there are some which would appear to be more cannibalistic - take a look at Daragh's excellent video clip of such an occurrence

www.irishfishkeepers.com/cms/component/o...d,61/id,60870/#61115

Actually, if you do a search (top right of page - search Forum) for 'Shrimps' you should find links to Daragh's very good Shrimp-related postings, they should give you a good insight into this branch of the hobby.

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03 Feb 2010 14:29 #10 by Markku (Markku)
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Have seen the vid, cheers mate, will hunt down the posts.


Mark

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03 Feb 2010 14:55 #11 by fourmations (NIall SMyth)
here you go, bit of info

www.theshrimpfarm.com/dwarf_shrimp_compatibility_chart.shtml

the otos wont go near the shrimp
although they like a lot of the same foods

my otos would often muscle in on wafers
that are plastered in shrimp, thats about it

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03 Feb 2010 14:58 #12 by Markku (Markku)
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Tell you what, you can have my ottos and I'll take yours, mine muscle out adult corys :) Little savages

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03 Feb 2010 16:46 #13 by Viperbot (Jason Hughes)
Gavin wrote:

they're famous for doing it to discus.


Would that be because they secrete that so called "Discus Milk" when they are breeding?

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04 Feb 2010 01:37 #14 by Daragh_Owens (Daragh Owens)
Did someone mention my name?

Yes I keep corys with shrimp, however I do have my suspicions that the corys may snack on the occasional new born shrimp, not so much that they would go chasing them but more likely hoovering them up when they are rooting for food. The losses would be minimal, definitely some babies survive in my tanks!

Following on from the posting of that video I have been thinking about the possibility of canabalism among other shrimp species or more particularly with their own young, it my be coincidence but my least productive (in fact totally non-productive) shrimp tank is the least planted by far, so perhaps the youngsters that I have definitely seen for a day or two get eaten by the parents. I really don't know.

As long as any babies are surviving you shouldn't worry, they reproduce very fast anyway and it is one way to control the numbers.

I can't put my hand on the "do not mix" chart, I will have another look tomorrow.


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04 Feb 2010 01:53 #15 by Markku (Markku)
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It is best to keep em seperae as a rule so as to keep the species as they are and not breed em out, compatible species of course, but if all shrimp keepers cross bred it would definately reduce species stock significantly over time, although we may get some "Super Shrimp" :)

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04 Feb 2010 01:56 - 04 Feb 2010 01:57 #16 by JohnH (John)
You talk of 'Super Shrimp' look at this lad.



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04 Feb 2010 02:02 #17 by Markku (Markku)
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Shrimp? That's a dependent on a claim form :)

Awesome, now if I can just get the steroids into the Cherrys I'll be laughing.

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04 Feb 2010 23:52 #18 by Daragh_Owens (Daragh Owens)
This is a compatibility chart I stole from Planetinverts, I do not approve of pinching photos or other peoples work without permission, but I make an exception for Mr Ryan Wood of Planetinverts as he is an internet scammer that owes me over $200 - that also serves as a warning to anyone here NOT to order shrimp from him. But I do have to say he has a great site, just don't lose sight of your money on it.

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05 Feb 2010 00:03 #19 by Viperbot (Jason Hughes)
Handy chart, thx for the heads up. Ah, revenge is sweet :laugh: .

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05 Feb 2010 00:17 #20 by Markku (Markku)
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Top notch, warning duly noted.

Cheers for the chart.

Mark

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05 Feb 2010 00:34 #21 by murph (Tony Murphy)
fwiw, one of the ottos in my small tank thinks the farlowellas are a good food source when they are in the spot where i usually put the veggie feed.
For about 0.5 seconds, then all hell breaks loose.
Anything you hear about them(farlowella) being timid is rubbish!

P.S. Any sponsors or otherwise got a male adult accus???
I have two pregnant (very!) females who need company for the spring rains.

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