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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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20 Dec 2012 13:27 #1 by schnappsmom (Muireasa Harney)
I have never had fish before, but am planning to get some fancy goldfish next year. By the time I get the tank cycled it'll probably be March (Yes I am thinking well ahead! LOL)

So I have been researching - a lot - and looking at fish shops West of the Shannon, and the fish I like are a three hour journey away. I cannot claim to know anything about fish, but going by how lively the fish look, how clean the tanks look, how helpful the staff are, and a few other little things, the shop I like is a three hour journey away.

Could a fish survive that journey in a plastic bag? Would I need to make special requests when I buy the fish to make survival more likely? Or should I just get the fish-that-look-OK-but-I-don't-like-quite-as-much that are five minutes from home?

Thanks for your help!!

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20 Dec 2012 13:43 #2 by JohnH (John)
Replied by JohnH (John) on topic Distance to fish shop
As long as you let the seller know that there will be a three-hour delay they will be able to accommodate you with larger bags (containing more water) and everything should be good for the trip home.
But it may be as well to wait until the Spring when most shops will get new coldwater stocks in - then do your choosing. What I'm trying to say, I think, is that new stocks always are 'fresher' than last years ones and that way you'll get a better chance to take a pick from more fish.
But three hours is by no means a long journey if the correct precautions are taken. Most often, when I go to Dublin to buy fish they seem to end up 'bagged' for longer than that.
And - time spent researching is never time wasted!

John

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N. Tipp

We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl - year after year.


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It's a long way to Tipperary.

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20 Dec 2012 15:35 #3 by schnappsmom (Muireasa Harney)
Thanks for that.

I thought that by timing things for March I would coincide with new fish in the shop. Should I just ask when they expect their delivery? Will every shop be getting them in about the same time? And when does that spring delivery normally happen?

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20 Dec 2012 15:37 #4 by Ski (Alan McGee)
I've never had a problem with a journey like that and i've gotten a lot of fish in Dublin.

Those would be tropical as well so i'm sure cold water would be easier.

I've never made any special requests and the longest i've had fish in a plastic bag has been around 4 hours and they've been fine.

Alan.

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20 Dec 2012 15:51 #5 by JohnH (John)
Replied by JohnH (John) on topic Distance to fish shop

Thanks for that.

I thought that by timing things for March I would coincide with new fish in the shop. Should I just ask when they expect their delivery? Will every shop be getting them in about the same time? And when does that spring delivery normally happen?


The Coldwater season does tend to happen around, or just after, Paddy's Day here, sometimes starting at Easter, different suppliers start at different times but that give you a pretty good clue.

I should make some enquiries around that time - they should all be 'in the know' by then.

John

Location:
N. Tipp

We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl - year after year.


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20 Dec 2012 15:55 #6 by JohnH (John)
Replied by JohnH (John) on topic Distance to fish shop

I've never had a problem with a journey like that and i've gotten a lot of fish in Dublin.

Those would be tropical as well so i'm sure cold water would be easier.

I've never made any special requests and the longest i've had fish in a plastic bag has been around 4 hours and they've been fine.

Alan.


Strangely enough Alan, Coldwater fish have a greater oxygen requirement than Tropicals, I'll leave it to someone better able to explain the reason why.

But - thinking logically - the fish are often in bags for longer periods when being delivered, but we can only speculate on loss rates during the transit time.

John

Location:
N. Tipp

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15 Jan 2016 23:03 #7 by robert (robert carter)
I have many times brought koi back from my home town in the UK , a 12hre drive to Holyhead then 3 hour crossing and the fish have been fine . Get the supplier to double bag them in big bags one fish per bag and fill the bags with oxegen ,the bags should then be put into a box to keep the fish in the dark ,less stress .a pump or two of stress coat in the bag also helps .finally take plenty of time introducing them into pond or tank

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16 Jan 2016 00:05 #8 by irish-zx10r (James feenan)
I have moved lots of fish from all over the country and never a problem I use styrofoam box from tesco, they have some spare boxes after there fresh fish dilererys they hold the heat or keep the water cool in your case should work fine.

Something fishie going on here

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