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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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26 Mar 2007 13:28 #1 by Tetra (Tetra)
have beening doing trops for roughly over a year now and im very interested in starting up a marine tank iv started to read alot up on marines and was finally ready to buy a nano marine tank with all equipment built in until I was told that its much harder to keep a 60 litre marine than a much larger size one ie 120 litres upwards. so id be better off getting a larger tank especially as im a beginer

Well my question is ,is this true? I dont want to spend loads of money on a large tank and equipment only to find out that its to much hassle.

I was hoping to start off with a small nano tank with 2 common clowns and a clean up crew and see how i get on with that then work my way up.

Should I just stick with trops as this has really set me back.........

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27 Mar 2007 01:45 #2 by Sean (Fr. Jack)

That would be a ecumenical matter!!!

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01 Apr 2007 12:32 #3 by Cynos (Cynos)
Replied by Cynos (Cynos) on topic Re: Nano marine tank
have a mate selling something like this with a Deltec HOB skimmer
Nice tank


If your interested I'll find out the price for you

a 3foot tank might be easier and cheaper to setup for a 1st tank though

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01 Apr 2007 16:39 #4 by Anthony (Anthony)
Replied by Anthony (Anthony) on topic Re: Nano marine tank
That picture is bigger than the tank.

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02 Apr 2007 06:34 #5 by Sean (Fr. Jack)
Surely this picture is squeezed to look higher than it is long?

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01 May 2007 16:59 #6 by Cynos (Cynos)
Replied by Cynos (Cynos) on topic Re: Nano marine tank
No thats the shape, 24inches deep by 16inches wide
Its a cool shape tank, If I had room I'd take it myself

has a pump built into the hood
HOB Deltec skimmer
Ideal tank for Sea horses
It even comes with a small bit of mature live rock
Enough to get you started

Think he wants €400 for the lot

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02 May 2007 01:23 #7 by Sean (Fr. Jack)
Then it is a cool tank, I love deep tanks it gives you much more scope but is the glass thickness safe?

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03 May 2007 00:52 #8 by brians947 (brians947)
but what about light. Reef tanks need alot of light. The deeper the tank the more light they need. That has to be taken into consideration. Im only new to marine aswell but a halide lamp is a must. Here is a my tank.

www.reefsuk.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14438&highlight=

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03 May 2007 00:58 #9 by Sean (Fr. Jack)
I clicked on it and got a forum but not a photo, they all seem very polite, without any humour, is that what its supposed to be like or is that the exception to the rule, I am not in any other forum so I have nothing to compare to.

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03 May 2007 02:18 #10 by brians947 (brians947)
Tried it myself when logged of and did'nt get photo either. You must need to join to see photos. They are a great help. Learned loads from the site since i joined it. Helps when there is'nt one specialising in marine in Ireland. But the site really gets you into marine. Seeing some of the tanks is amazing. One think about marine is it will burn a hole in your pocket

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03 May 2007 08:48 #11 by Cynos (Cynos)
Replied by Cynos (Cynos) on topic Re: Nano marine tank

Then it is a cool tank, I love deep tanks it gives you much more scope but is the glass thickness safe?

The one he's got is acrylic so should be safe enough, its a factory built tank
Will get the model of it when I see him at the weekend

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12 Jul 2007 16:21 #12 by buleetu (buleetu)
hi everyone

i have a grand tank going without metal halides, there not essetial, especially as ur a beginner, u wont want to keep anything more complicated than softies for the first year or 2 anyway, thats if u wanna gradually learn as u go and not spend a fortune in the process

i would recommend a tank no smaller than 180 litres, of course im a relative newbie my self but thats the figure ive read loads of times,

the thing is the more water u have in a tank the more everything is diluted, and the longer it takes for temperatures to swing and that,
if u have a pint of boiling water and a barrel of boiling water, the pint will go cold quicker in general, and its the same idea with salt and calcium and phosphate etc etc....

so having a bigger tank will give u a bit of room for error, but only a bit:lol: :laugh:

i had an 80 litre nano tank for a while with a MH light over it, it also had a sump of about 20 litres, so it wasnt really a nano as such but the biggest problem i hd with it was the temp swings from the MH light as the day went by, before the lights went on it would be 26 and by the end of the light cycle it would be touching 32, but in the end i found a way around it by installing computer fans in the sump cabinet and that helped to steady it out

but u see what i mean ye???;)

this is a link for a tank thats for sale, it might suit u
www.irishfishkeepers.com/cms/index.php?o...d=17038&catid=34

Post edited by: buleetu, at: 2007/07/12 18:24

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13 Jul 2007 08:08 #13 by Sean (Fr. Jack)
Replied by Sean (Fr. Jack) on topic Re:Nano marine tank
buleetu wrote:

i had an 80 litre nano tank for a while with a MH light over it, it also had a sump of about 20 litres, so it wasnt really a nano as such but the biggest problem i hd with it was the temp swings from the MH light as the day went by, before the lights went on it would be 26 and by the end of the light cycle it would be touching 32, but in the end i found a way around it by installing computer fans in the sump cabinet and that helped to steady it out

but u see what i mean ye???;)


Its a question of phiyics not even water chemistry, even a 2 year old child will move away from a hot fire if too close, a 32 degree marine tank is madness for most speciers except things like madrine gobys that live in rock pools. With shallow water tanks a metal halide lamp will fulualter temp, especially if the room is over 18C, I talked about 2 foot being the minium to breed a pair of A, Oclarris, but I have kept one clown with an amemone in a disused adult brine acrylic dispensr (the type use to hold them in LFS this was way under 18Litres, althogh I dont advise abeginner to do that.

Its all realitve! a 2 foot tank with a tricle filter is infinetely CHEMICALLY more stable than a 4 foot tank using live rock as the bio medium, athough a 4 foot tank will be more stable temp wise, although temp flucation is less of a problem as when you dive without a wetsuit one can really notice masive temp drops (2C) between currentas and water climps so I am not convined marine have evoled in a temp stable enivoment, they have evolved in a chemical stable enviroment.

Too big a tank is difficult to do water changes or clean the bottom, I guess the ideal size marine tank is 4 feet by 18iches wide 18 iches deep, but if one is trying to convine parents or a wife to have \"one more tank\" a 2 foot marine tank without metal halide lamp with a pair of common clown will work out real well. :)

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13 Jul 2007 12:25 #14 by buleetu (buleetu)
i dont really have much experiance with diving or anything but i would imagine ur right about the temp in the sea, when i started in the hobby i was told the temp ust stay at 25 and not move and if it does the live stock will die, but i now know that temp swings are hard to control unless ye have 2 grand for a chiller or something

i think fans are the best bet for stopping temp swings ,maybe hooking the fans up to a controller would be even better

and i would suggest an auto topoff if u use fans because u will lose more water from evapoitive loss when u use them


but i would defo recommend a beginner to get as big a tank as they can afford, it will just make things that much more less complicated

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