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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

RO water is it a must

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04 Apr 2007 17:18 #1 by Tetra (Tetra)
well setting up a marine tank soon and just gethering all the info first. Was just wonder as I dont have an RO unit would it be possible to fill my 400 litre tank with tapwater and run it for a few days thru carbon instead of filling it up with RO water (nothing will be in the tank). is it a must to use RO water in a marine so far I have not heard a definite answer just that its better.

Also is there anywere I can buy RO water?

cheers for all the help in advance folks

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04 Apr 2007 19:10 #2 by serratus (Drew Latimer)
hi what are you intending to keep? a fish only system, fish with liverock or a reef etc???? call up to us, we sell r/o water, ask for Alan!

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05 Apr 2007 02:53 #3 by arabesque (Mick Veale)
no not a must at all

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05 Apr 2007 03:22 #4 by Tetra (Tetra)
intending to keep FOWLR system then might go into reef later on.
Think I may fill the tank with tapwater and run it thru carbon after that ill use RO water for water changes

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05 Apr 2007 04:14 #5 by lampeye (lampeye)
hi tetra.
i have run a marine tank for the last 8 months or so using tap water....and so far no problems. the tank houses clownfish, shrimp, firefish, hermit crabs, snails, featherdusters, live rock and some mushroom corals. i age my water for a week in a plastic dustbin and also add a dechlorinator called sechem prime (carefull which one u use). i also run carbon 24/7 in the filter.

there are people who swear by ro water, and to be honest of course its better, but the book i read when i was setting up the tank said in the grand scheme of things it wasn't vital.....and as i said tap water works for me.

the book is called the conscientious marine aquarist and id highly recommend it.

www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&search-type...%20Fenner&page=1

lampeye

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05 Apr 2007 04:45 #6 by Tetra (Tetra)
cheers lampeye was just gettin a bit confused because I was reading that an RO unit is a must if you want to keep marine which prob is the case if u intend setting up a reef.


might invest in that book cheers for the help

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05 Apr 2007 07:09 #7 by lampeye (lampeye)
no worries....yeah id def read it before u set it up.....loads of info.

lampeye

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05 Apr 2007 07:25 #8 by Sean (Fr. Jack)

call up to us, we sell r/o water, ask for Alan!


Seratus. Qes. What salts and minerals are you enchorging the beginner to take out (non desirable for marine) of the the freshwater water, that will not be put back in again when you sell him the salt and adds it back to solution? :roll:

That would be a ecumenical matter!!!

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05 Apr 2007 08:06 #9 by serratus (Drew Latimer)
well it all depends on your tapwater, as you know there are hundreds of metals, chemicals etc. not to mention nitrates, phosphates !! yes you do need minerals but at the correct level, that would not be good for a marine system!
We sell Redsea Coral pro salt specially formulated for use with r/o water. I would not consider r/o water essential for marines, beneficial yes, especially reef systems.

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06 Apr 2007 02:57 #10 by Sean (Fr. Jack)

well it all depends on your tap water, as you know there are hundreds of metals, chemicals etc. not to mention nitrates, phosphates !! .


May be for London water yes, with high nitrate it could be useful for a reef tank, in Ireland with all the rain and low population and movement of new rain water replacing the old water table, I doubt nitrate and phosphate would be a problem, heavy metals yes as you have a copper pipe from the main street wide plastic pipe to your house, that's why you always run to waster the cold water tap for 1 minute to flush out the standing water out of the pipes. The hardness that R/O water takes out of the water is beneficial to keep the pH at 8.2-8.3pH that why through evaporation I would encourage african and marine tanks to top up with tap water and not R/O water.

If you had a client that wanted to keep wild caught amazon fish, well yes of course I would encourage the sell of a R/O system from you shops its the only practical way of getting the hardness down failing collecting bog water up the Dublin mountains.

There are at least 3 ways to successful keep fish and your way will of course work to, its just the guy does not need it unless he is on well water with high nitrate from a run off from slurry in the country side it he is on mains water you are basically selling him something that the same money could of been used to benifit him more, e.g drilled tank with wet and dry filter with live sand filter in the sump to stop nitrates, or thicker glass thank which is stronger against children knocking the tank, or suspend halide lights. This is IMO with no bias or gain in my views.

That would be a ecumenical matter!!!

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13 Jul 2007 15:19 #11 by Anthony (Anthony)
Replied by Anthony (Anthony) on topic Re:RO water is it a must
I bought new RO. filters today but might just chance the tapwater.Waiting till I move to go for the Reef.

F.O.W.L for now so tapwater will do.

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13 Jul 2007 19:34 #12 by brians947 (brians947)
When i started i just used tap water. I only got the RO unit when i decided i wanted to get into corals. I didn't add corals till i felt the tank was nearly all RO WATER.

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