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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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21 Mar 2012 11:18 #1 by steothegreat (stephen flanagan)
i recently had one of my cichlids release over 35 fry into my tank.
i now have them in a small breeding tank when big enough would a local fish shop buy them. and if so for how much
thanks for the help

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21 Mar 2012 11:27 #2 by stretnik (stretnik)
Replied by stretnik (stretnik) on topic Re: can i sell cichlid fry to pet shops
Not being rude, but, that's like asking how long is a piece of string... you need to say what the fry are, hybrids, true offspring, what Genus and species they are , in other words, what Cichlids are they???

Some LFS will buy them but most will offer credit but usually only on other livestock.

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21 Mar 2012 11:30 #3 by steothegreat (stephen flanagan)
they are lake malawi orange peacock cichlid fry.
they are about 1 week old at the moment

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21 Mar 2012 11:40 #4 by stretnik (stretnik)
Replied by stretnik (stretnik) on topic Re: can i sell cichlid fry to pet shops
Most LFS keep away from buying young Fish as they don't show much colour and end up sitting in their Tanks for an age, if they were a few months old, showing some colours you'd have a better chance of off loading them.

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21 Mar 2012 12:02 #5 by Brazzill (john)
could u put up some pics i might know a few people that would take a few

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21 Mar 2012 12:11 #6 by steothegreat (stephen flanagan)
ill set up a pic today but there mega small.

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21 Mar 2012 12:15 #7 by Brazzill (john)
i know ya i had a ball of green terror fry a couple of months ago aswell! only getting their colours now

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21 Mar 2012 16:11 #8 by Rummy (Stephen)
where you based i might take a few off you to grow out

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21 Mar 2012 21:21 #9 by BlueRam (Sean Crowe)
not many LFS will buy them off u

as kev said credit is all u would get and not much at all i passed on a few fish for i mean NOTHING but sure thats the way it is its crack if i waa u try grow them out till as much as u can then get them on here and u might move a few on and wats left will be large enough for the LFS to want them and u might get a bit more credit

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21 Mar 2012 21:37 #10 by steothegreat (stephen flanagan)
well that was all bad news really wasnt it lol.
probably shoulda let them be released naturally in the tank and let them be food ;)
ah well i might get some swaps and just give the rest to the local fish shop
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21 Mar 2012 21:44 #11 by stretnik (stretnik)
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No, definitely not bad news, keep them until they are beyond eating size and let them grow on naturally in the main Tank, I'd be all over them if I were staying in Ireland, they are a lovely species, you'll have no problem shifting them here or anywhere else when they put on a bit of weight.

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21 Mar 2012 21:52 #12 by steothegreat (stephen flanagan)
how long would i take to get them beyond eating size.
its just my tank is highly stocked already otherwise i would have kept them as much as i could?

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21 Mar 2012 21:58 #13 by stretnik (stretnik)
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My guess... inch and a half.

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21 Mar 2012 22:01 #14 by steothegreat (stephen flanagan)
and do you have any idea how .uch time it takes though lol

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21 Mar 2012 22:06 - 21 Mar 2012 22:07 #15 by stretnik (stretnik)
Replied by stretnik (stretnik) on topic Re: can i sell cichlid fry to pet shops
Good Question, Water changes and good food should help things along nicely.

PM Derek Doyle, he'll tell you to an exact time etc... he's a Cichlid Guru.


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21 Mar 2012 22:09 #16 by steothegreat (stephen flanagan)
cheers mate i do 50 per cent water changes every week so i think this does be enough

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22 Mar 2012 01:44 #17 by Rummy (Stephen)
where you based i might take a few off you to grow out
if your interested in selling a few pm me

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22 Mar 2012 03:19 #18 by sheag35 (Seamus Gillespie)
once they get to about half an inch some people on the forum might buy some off you, or if they have spare tanks they could take some now

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25 Mar 2012 12:00 #19 by steothegreat (stephen flanagan)
hey just a quick update?
alot of my fry have been dying nearly 2-3 a day.
ive been feeding them twice a day as the bottle says but still loosing them fast
has anybody got some help on what i could be doing wrong??

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25 Mar 2012 12:16 #20 by sheag35 (Seamus Gillespie)
a few quick questions mate,
1 what are you feeding them,
2 are they still in the main tank,
3 do you vaccum out the uneaten food immediately or leave it till your water changes,
also you say your doing 50% a week water changes, this might be disturbing the water parameters and fry aren't really set up to handle these large parameter changes

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25 Mar 2012 12:28 #21 by steothegreat (stephen flanagan)
im just feeding them liquifry no 2.
and they are in a small breeding tank inside the main tank.
generally there doesnt be any uneaten food in my tank i only feed small amouint to ensure that. so until i change the water.
what do you think?

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25 Mar 2012 13:23 #22 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
I would have thought that they would have moved on from liquifry at this stage.

Also, what you can't see easily with liquifry is the bacterial or fungal film that might build up....the fish might be pecking at that.

An additional help for young fish within a box is to add some ammonia adsorbing zeolite to the floor of the box....it is not magical, but it goes a long way to curb localised ammonia spikes.

The other thing is to inspect the fry for signs of disease (eg cloudiness of the skin maybe).

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25 Mar 2012 13:28 - 25 Mar 2012 13:30 #23 by sheag35 (Seamus Gillespie)
likewise as Ian said i would be looking at a flake fry food, jbl do a great 3 piece kit, vaccum out the excess if not eaten in a few minutes, i would do a 10% water change daily rather than a 50% weekly to keep water quality up, i treat with easylife as i find it doesnt affect fry like some other products can, and also as Ian has pointed out check for disease, also a bit of polyfilter is superb buy some for your tank and put some in the tank its fantastic for keeping the water quality up

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25 Mar 2012 13:31 #24 by steothegreat (stephen flanagan)
Ok I'll get rid of the liquifry. Thanks. And they seem quiet healthy diease wise. Would smashed up pellets be ok? Would it be something as simple as wrong food?

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25 Mar 2012 15:25 #25 by stretnik (stretnik)
Replied by stretnik (stretnik) on topic Re: can i sell cichlid fry to pet shops
Fish positively go nuts for Tabimin, I'd give that a go but I have to say... it's a ridiculous price!

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25 Mar 2012 16:21 #26 by DJK (David Kinsella)
Tabimin sounds like a good suggestion Kev. As regarding its cost, I think the size of the tub is fooling you a bit. The smallest tub with 120 tablets weighs 33g and costs about €8. Now the smallest tub of Tetra Pro crisps weighs 18g and costs about €6-7!

The bottom line being you don't have to necessarily throw in full tablets for each feed. For example I feed 20 corydoras+ with just one tablet for each feed twice daily. They can be broken up very easily which allows spreading about to different areas of the tank to allow more timid fish to get something.

Dave

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26 Mar 2012 12:01 - 26 Mar 2012 12:01 #27 by sheag35 (Seamus Gillespie)

Ok I'll get rid of the liquifry. Thanks. And they seem quiet healthy diease wise. Would smashed up pellets be ok? Would it be something as simple as wrong food?


it could be on 2 counts as A) They wouldnt be getting the nutrition they need, and B ) the risk of the food rotting or going off in the tank is less with tabs and flakes over liquid foods as with tabs and flakes/pellets, you can syphon off uneaten food
also regular water changes of 10% a day will result in an increased growth rate, better quality water and more stable conditions for the fry rather than a single 50% water change a week

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