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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

Aquarium Heater position Vertical or Horizontal

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08 Jan 2012 19:42 #1 by ghart (Greg Hart)
I have always placed my heater in a vertical position at the left side of the tank and put the thermostat at the right side of the tank to confirm the temperature is ok throughout the tank.

This is a simple question but I've seen a comment recently as follows..

When you place your heater in your tank, you want to consider a couple of things. First, you want to place it horizontally along the back wall and near the bottom. It should NEVER be in a vertical up and down direction

Any comments from the experienced forum members on this comment.

Greg

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08 Jan 2012 19:54 #2 by stretnik (stretnik)
Replied by stretnik (stretnik) on topic Re: Aquarium Heater position Vertical or Horizontal
Some Heaters have a line below which it is reccommended not to submerge so horizontal positioning is not an option, Heaters expand when hot and contract when cooling off, in the process, a vacuum is created where water can be sucked into the Tube which is dangerous.
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08 Jan 2012 20:16 #3 by ghart (Greg Hart)
Thanks Kev.
So what angle do you put your heaters.
I have 2 x 300w JBL ProTemp heaters ready for my new 5' tank.
I would have thought all modern submersable heaters can be placed either vetical or horizontal.
I am now thinking that horizontal at the bottom but obviously not touching the gravel would be better as the heater will cover a longer stretch of the tanks length. Does the heat rises theory apply under water :(

Greg

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08 Jan 2012 21:44 #4 by smitas5 (Marius Smitas)
I would say most manufacturers will advice not to submerse heaters below the line, just to cover themselves. I have Jewel 300W and it started to gather condensation inside after 2months or so fully in water.
the 2 heaters from Fluval (300W) doesn't have anything written on them regarding submertion, but they are all covered in plastic and look different from other heaters I'm used to. they are fully under water now for a good 6 months and nothing, but then again I can't see what is happening inside. So to be sure better read manufacturers recommendation.

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09 Jan 2012 10:02 #5 by christyg (Chris Geraghty)
I agree with smitas, follow the manufacturers instructions, they know whats best for their heaters.

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09 Jan 2012 10:29 #6 by stretnik (stretnik)
Replied by stretnik (stretnik) on topic Re: Aquarium Heater position Vertical or Horizontal
@Christyg


That's not exactly true, some have a Waterline printed on the Glass yet nowhere in the instructions does it say NOT to submerge beneath this Line.

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09 Jan 2012 12:15 #7 by Blue Land (Brian McGeever)
I have had various aquarium heaters over a number of years.

Those that had a water line marked on them represented a Minimum mark, where the heater should not be operated if the water level was not at/above this mark.

I think following the instructions supplied is the sensible course of action - they oought to know their own product.

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09 Jan 2012 13:14 #8 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
It would be very useful if the manufacturers who intend to have their heaters hung vertically supply decent suckers.

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09 Jan 2012 16:59 #9 by ghart (Greg Hart)
Thanks Guys for the comments.

I looked at the instruction on my heaters and it says..and I quote..

"Immerse the heater in the water to at least the min. water level line and attach to the wall of the aquarium using the suction holders. for ease of use we recommend positioning the appliance vertically, however any other position is possible. In order to guarantee and even distribution of warmth in the aquarium, the applicance should be located where there is good water circulation. Never put the heater on the ground covering material.The appliance is waterproof and can be immersed to a depth of 100cm"

Looks like the these heaters JBL ProTemp 300W can go anywhere and at any angle in the tank :)

I will try them horizontal just above the gravel at both ends of the tank. They also have protective plastic grids so my Discus should be safe if they get too near to them :laugh:

Greg

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