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Hi,
John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.
I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.
With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.
I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.
If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.
I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.
I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.
Thank you
Darragh Sherwin
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25 Mar 2015 17:39 - 25 Mar 2015 22:34 #1
by mbu puffer (alan)
anyone recommend a decent heater for a 240 ltr tank have had 2 in the last year give up on me they were only 200w a friend suggested a in line heater any ideas
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25 Mar 2015 18:25 - 25 Mar 2015 22:36 #2
by JohnH (John)
I'm assuming this should have the heading 'Heater'?
Anyway - I think the Eheim/Jager is one of the best and most reliably consistent heaters on the market.
I have never used an inline heater but I know there are devotees of them here so perhaps we can get some observations which will help you come to a decision.
BTW, If you bought the heaters which (presumably) died from new - you should be able to return them and request a working replacement under guarantee. Might be worth you looking into?
John
Edit - I took the liberty of changing the title to Heater
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25 Mar 2015 19:34 #3
by swai (Simon)
For some reason, i think inline heaters are on less then heaters left in tanks. I use eheim heaters also which are good and also the hydor inline heaters which i prefer. The steady flow of water through the heater seems to heat the tank better and for longer. Thats just what i've noticed!
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25 Mar 2015 21:37 #4
by jeff (Jeff Scully)
I've had my fair share of heaters in the past all sorts
And the last maybe 3 yrs I've be using the same eheim jager heaters and they are in my opinion the best out their, whatever you set them at the will keep the water at that constantly even when it's below zero outside and the house is freezing
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25 Mar 2015 22:22 #5
by hammie (Neil Hammerton)
I've found cheaper heaters work better at 45 degrees
Sounds like a stupid statement however the thermostat sensor in alot of cheap heaters is in the top.... heat rises and therefore the sensors are fooled and shut off early
Placing at 45 degrees keeps the adjuster accessible whilst helping to remove the false indication. Possibility thus helping to get a proper reading and more accurate temp control
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27 Mar 2015 21:25 #6
by Kmd (Keith mc donagh)
Hi, I've had the eheim jager, and the hydor 300w in line heater on my tank, the hydor is far better at keeping my temp stable. I have a 130ltr reef tank, so a stable temp is important. I've mine set at 25.8, and the temp will never go above that, (well maybe in the summer) or drop below 25.7.
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29 Mar 2015 19:11 #7
by mbu puffer (alan)
Thanks all for the advise think ill go with the 300 w eheim they seem to have a good review everywhere I read
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30 Mar 2015 09:43 #9
by JustinK (Justin Kelly)
I've found cheaper heaters work better at 45 degrees
Sounds like a stupid statement however the thermostat sensor in alot of cheap heaters is in the top.... heat rises and therefore the sensors are fooled and shut off early
Placing at 45 degrees keeps the adjuster accessible whilst helping to remove the false indication. Possibility thus helping to get a proper reading and more accurate temp control
Placed in the tank at a 45 deg angle as opposed to set at 45 deg c
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30 Mar 2015 10:10 #10
by LemonJelly (Johnny Cowley)
I've found cheaper heaters work better at 45 degrees
Sounds like a stupid statement however the thermostat sensor in alot of cheap heaters is in the top.... heat rises and therefore the sensors are fooled and shut off early
Placing at 45 degrees keeps the adjuster accessible whilst helping to remove the false indication. Possibility thus helping to get a proper reading and more accurate temp control
Placed in the tank at a 45 deg angle as opposed to set at 45 deg c
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30 Mar 2015 11:12 #11
by irish-zx10r (James feenan)
I had a inline heater and found it great for about one year then it stopped heating the water and I would have being in trouble only for I had a eheim heater in the tank. One good thing about having a heater where u can see it if the light goes off and does not turn back on after a short time you know there something wrong.
Something fishie going on here
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30 Mar 2015 11:29 #14
by Stem12 (Stephen M)
On another note folks, not to steal the tread but something ive always wondered is-
Is it best to have a higher watt heater or a lower watted hearter for power costs etc,
The question is.. If i have a 100w heater trying to heat up my 300ltr tank it would run most of the time? yes? If i purchased a 200w/300w heater it would do the job and not run as long on the power bill...? but might cost more in electricity costs in the long run..?
Anyone understand what i mean?
Random Question I know.
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30 Mar 2015 13:26 #15
by Blue Land (Brian McGeever)
I am fairly certain that the rule of thumb with heats is 1 watt per litre.
With a 100w heater, this is way below this, and is likely to lead to the heater being on constantly, and perhaps not actually achieving the desired temperature, or perhaps it does when the ambient temperature is higher during the day but not during the night when it drops and there no way of knowing that it has dropped in the tank.
I generally have 2 heaters in my tanks which fit with this rule but more importantly there is built in redundancy in case of heater failure.
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30 Mar 2015 13:39 #16
by LemonJelly (Johnny Cowley)
I am fairly certain that the rule of thumb with heats is 1 watt per litre.
With a 100w heater, this is way below this, and is likely to lead to the heater being on constantly, and perhaps not actually achieving the desired temperature, or perhaps it does when the ambient temperature is higher during the day but not during the night when it drops and there no way of knowing that it has dropped in the tank.
I generally have 2 heaters in my tanks which fit with this rule but more importantly there is built in redundancy in case of heater failure.
+1
If they're placed well apart from each other they also have the benefit of not having one heater trying to heat the water 3 feet away from it.
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